Munrock,
@Munrock@lemmygrad.ml avatar

I wonder if there's going to be some sort of culture crisis across The West when reality hits, or if Western media is strong enough to distract everyone with something new like they did with Afghanistan.

Amir,
@Amir@lemmy.ml avatar

Remember when Hong Kong was “winning”?

Opened my eyes to the accuracy of the Western media

Munrock,
@Munrock@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Yeah same. I was there, and seeing what was happening and what was being reported was a huge WTF experience

133arc585,

I think they're already trying to shift it somewhat, the anti-Chinese stuff has picked up a bit recently.

intelati,

Ukraine has basically handed the second "strongest" military aa stalemate. Which is a win IMO. Throw the might off the military industrial complex at the problem and banish the military for the foreseeable future.

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

"banish the military"

Downsize? Sure. Absolutely. Definitely. By a lot.

Get rid of it totally? Yeah, dumbest fucking thing ever.

gary_host_laptop,
@gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml avatar

Who wants to bet a hundred bucks?

fomo_erotic,
@fomo_erotic@lemmy.ml avatar

Sure, what odds?

gary_host_laptop,
@gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml avatar

I say Russia wins, I can pay with crypto when things end.

Telodzrum,

Be more of a caricature

N1cknamed,

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  • StugStig,

    Russia's officially stated original goal was basically the Minsk accords, but instead of autonomy it was changed to independence for Donbass.

    Ukraine officially stated goal is Crimea and Donbass.

    gary_host_laptop,
    @gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml avatar

    That was never the case.

    Aesthesiaphilia,

    Blackrock, JP Morgan, The UK and EU, and dozens of companies, especially in the construction sector.. Oh and I almost forgot, the United States of America.

    How about $100,000? I'm thinking about it. Cheaper than retiring in the US.

    gary_host_laptop,
    @gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml avatar

    😴😴😴😴

    IntoDaLagoon, (edited )

    Half of the US financial sector turn their organs of accumulation towards a war-torn proxy nation the US is almost ready to discard

    You, a genius: Ah, this must be because the proxy is winning.

    I have a bridge in South Vietnam to sell you

    Aesthesiaphilia,

    US investors don't want to own property in an empoverished Russian puppet country. They want to own property in a wealthy, thriving Western puppet county. So yes, it's because our proxy is winning.

    IntoDaLagoon, (edited )

    Winning so hard that their big armored counteroffensive culminated with them losing ground lmao

    Vulture capitalists want to buy assets for liquidation at rock bottom prices. This was part of the western impetus for starting the hostilities in the first place. They were hoping to draw the Russian Federation into an endless quagmire to juice war industry profits and hopefully collapse the RF government to get another nice lucrative round of shock therapy. Since the economic warfare effort backfired, the US has been contenting itself with absorbing the western european energy market while stripping Ukraine for assets.

    Aesthesiaphilia,

    This was part of the western impetus for starting the hostilities in the first place.

    Whoa whoa whoa back up. I want to hear what kind of ridiculous mental gymnastics makes YOU invading a sovereign nation somehow OUR fault. This should be good for laughs.

    133arc585,

    Based on some of your other comments you come off as completely oblivious to the geopolitical history of the region.

    YOU invading a sovereign nation

    I’m almost certain the person you replied to is not on the front line on behalf of the RF, and I’m even more certain they had no say in the decision to invade.

    Aesthesiaphilia,

    So? He wants to defend it, I wanna hear him defend it.

    133arc585,

    Nothing about your snarky replies indicate a willingness to actually learn or participate in discussion.

    Aesthesiaphilia,

    Well for one, I wasn't talking to you

    133arc585,

    How insufferable. Why are you here?

    Aesthesiaphilia,
    • Ukraine, to Russia, shortly before kicking their asses
    IntoDaLagoon,

    I'd rather hear you defend eight years of shelling and death squads in the Donbas🤔

    Aesthesiaphilia,

    You invaded. Invaders tend to become fertilizer. Especially in Ukraine.

    Aesthesiaphilia,

    Hey tankie! Previous conversation aside, I'd like your actual opinion on something. Seriously. What do you think about the Wagner group marching on Russia? Are they traitors or do they have good reason for what they're doing?

    Actual question, not trolling.

    guyman,

    Please keep up the good fight. We need you in NATO.

    DonaldTrump,
    DonaldTrump avatar

    Let me tell you, folks, those Ukrainians, they're doing tremendous things with what they've got. I wish them nothing but the best in their efforts to keep the Russians out. Nobody understands the importance of tight border security better than I do, believe me.

    Untitled9999,
    Untitled9999 avatar

    The real Donald Trump would probably stop supplying aid to Ukraine though, and thus force Ukraine to accept the loss of some of their territory. He's said publicly that he would get the war ended as soon as possible if he was president again, and I'm sure this is the sort of end he means.

    Another problem with Trump is that he implied in an interview with Tucker Carlson that the US blew up the Nord Stream pipeline. I doubt this is true. I think Russia did it. Also, Trump didn't even believe his own intelligence agencies who said that Russia interfered in the 2016 US presidential election.

    azimir,

    IQ45 did stop the military funding to Ukraine. That’s what his first impeachment was about.

    Pili,

    the US blew up the Nord Stream pipeline. I doubt this is true. I think Russia did it.

    But... why?...

    Even the US stopped pretending that Russia did it because everyone understood that it made no sense.

    Why would Russia sabotage one of their main sources of revenue in the middle of a war?

    Aesthesiaphilia,

    They blew up most of their sources of revenue by going into a war.

    TomHardy,

    You know that Russia until today still pumps gas through pipes in Ukraine and sells it to Europe? Why wouldn’t they start with or at least close/bomb that pipe too then?

    IntoDaLagoon, (edited )

    I'm willing to entertain this notion if you extend it to America doing Pearl Harbor, 9/11, and the Unabomber. Oh, and also Ukraine did the Ukraine war by shelling and raiding the Donbas for 8 years.

    Aesthesiaphilia,

    That's a lotta bullshit in 2 sentences.

    (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firehose_of_falsehood)

    exscape,
    exscape avatar

    Don't forget that the president Trump tried to extort about "announcing an investigation into Hunter Biden" was Zelenskyy.

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