anticurrent, Not gonna lie. I feel happy for the people getting fleeced by this con woman. these propagandists deserve each other.
mindbleach, It could be true ten times over and still justify none of what’s happening.
turkishdelight, IDF is fascist organization.
Omega_Haxors, All imperialist militaries are, they’re just open and proud of the fact.
bartolomeo, Related from a month ago:
DdCno1, This site is not a good source, but this doesn't stop this community from upvoting it. Take a look at the Ukraine War section and it's pretty obvious they should not be taken seriously by anyone.
Hyperreality, (edited ) Just so you know, but you're commenting on lemmy.ml. Don't be too surprised if you come across people here defending Russia or China. Mention that Al-Jazeera is funded by the Qatari government, and things will also get spicey.
To give you an idea, OP has also posted a thread about the terrorist attack in Moscow not being perpetrated by ISIS:
DdCno1, That old slavish allegiance to Moscow by tankies - even though there's a far-right regime in power now - never fails to baffle me. Same with the Chinese far-right ethnonationalist state-capitalist regime. Shows that tankies just salivate at authoritarianism and have zero principles.
Hyperreality, A far-right regime led by a former ally of Yeltsin, one of the guys who helped cause the catastrophic fall of the Soviet Union and helped his friends continue to steal Russia's wealth from its citizens.
"Who stole all your money?" say the men with a gold plated yaughts. "Why it was the Americans/Ukrainians/Evil West!"
And to top it all off, plenty of tankies will defend the Russian elections or Putin's electoral victory, seemingly unaware that they're supporting the people who ensure the results don't show the literal communist party winning the amount of votes they actually won. Tankies supporting anti-communist fascist kleptocrats who suppress the communist vote.
As you say, it's baffling.
DdCno1, The Soviet Union collapsed entirely without Yeltsin's doing. Don't get me wrong, his incompetence and corruption made the aftermath even worse, but there was no way getting around a harsh reality check after many decades of incompetence and mismanagement. Ultimately, Soviet leadership is to blame - but in Russia at least, the one Soviet leader one can reasonably attribute mostly good intentions to, Gorbachev, is now most commonly made responsible for the collapse, in addition to the conspiracy theories you mentioned.
ShimmeringKoi, How many particularly violent deaths, how many “revenge” rapes, how many kids sniped in the head by IDF fascists who decided then and there to put down a “dangerous rapist human animal” do you think this one evil fuck is responsible for?
copandballtorture, Absolutely disgusting. The damage of these lies is already done.
“A lie can travel halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on”.
sadreality, (edited ) That's a beauty of psyops, you get result you need when you need it.
If it dis-proven later, who fucking cares, they got what they wanted out of it.
Peasants really need to get better at spotting this shit, because bad actors aint gonna stop lol
Hyperreality,
Omega_Haxors, Holy shit your username.
Karyoplasma, That was the plan, not a foolish mistake or lacking investigation.
Instilling fear by alleging contemptible actions made by your enemy is a common propaganda tactic. The goal here is to rally public support behind your agenda by demonizing the enemy. The decapitated babies claim was of the same fiber, albeit the agency was different (corporate greed vs settlerism).
qprimed, ah, yes. remember the babies thrown out of incubators propaganda?
Green13, I worry that this is where Republican talking heads are taking America. Too much information from too many places and too much of it is wrong. It waters down the solidity of society.
FriendBesto, Stop boiling this down to just Republicans. Dems do this shit as well. In this context the issues is not a Left or Right or Left vs Right Issue. Is an Up vs Down issue. For the record, I am left.
Those in power think they know better than stupid you or me and will try to get away and lie with what they can and get away with, to all of us, because they think most of us are stupid or gullible. Tale as old as time.
If you are on the Left, you most probably notice the shit on the Right because it is farther away from things you agree with/worldview in the general. So it is more obvious to you, but Dems do the same general corrupt type of shit as well. You likely have a blindspot and if you think you don’t, you are lying to yourself. Just like people on the Right will see the Left shit better than their own because their own bias and miss their own due to their blindspots. They want all of us to be petty. Works for them.
Man, I miss the Spirit of the Occupy XXX movememt, of the early 2010’s, the wealthy and powerful, from both sides got actually scared and worried, if for only a little bit before political correctness distracted everyone and made people fight over trivial things instead of the economy, foreign relations, unions, and going after banks, Pharma, the military complex and other huge corps. Stuff that actually affects everyone and not some tiny minority.
snooggums, They have been at it for a few decades now.
crusa187, Republicans are always going to lie, that’s just their nature. The news media has completely failed us for their inability to call out these lies, due to their desire for access to those in power.
turkishdelight, Democrats are fully onboard with Genocide too.
Green13, Cut that shit out
JamesConeZone, They very clearly meant Democrats in power and they’re right
BurgerPunk,
Omega_Haxors, Cool so the democrats going to stop funding genocide? No? Didn’t think so.
Green13, So much bad faith
Omega_Haxors, NYT are running debunked disinformation from Zionist propagandists. They can stuff it.
Not going to listen to a publication that not even half a year ago was all in on fucking NFTs.
Green13, Still more credibility than the opening greeting in a Fox News broadcast
Omega_Haxors, Everyone is either a polite fascist or a rude fascist and there are no other options
420blazeit69, Biden bypassed Congress to fund genocide
Green13, That sounds like he bypassed people that weren’t supporting him.
420blazeit69, Is your point that Congress also supports genocide? Or…?
Green13, Read it again but slower 👍
420blazeit69, Use your words
Biden is supporting genocide. Supporting Biden is supporting genocide.
Green13, Why would he skip Congress if they support him?
Slllooooowwweeeeerrr, I can’t understand it for you
BurgerPunk, Fuck off
Green13, What’s your favorite flavor crayon? I’ll spell it out for ya
BurgerPunk,
420blazeit69, Congress has voted to fund genocide a bunch too, you fucking doorknob
Green13, If you want to talk about the time Biden skipped congress that’s one thing. If you want to talk about congress voting for it that’s another. Either way, I’m out.
JamesConeZone,
aniki, no one cares
BurgerPunk, Good fucking riddance genocide supporter
comrade_pibb, So Congress said “no” and he funded it any way? Not sure what point you’re trying to make here
SSJ2Marx, Too much information from too many places and too much of it is wrong.
Metal_Gear_Solid_2.iso
copandballtorture, CNN and NYT were the major perpetuators of Levy’s lies; this is not just a Republican problem.
queermunist, Meanwhile, Palestinian prisoners are stripped naked and sexually assaulted regularly.
snooggums, I would normally reserve judgement on this, but it really fits in with the whole genocide thing.
bartolomeo, No need to project, she’s stating facts:
Omega_Haxors, I would normally reserve judgement
This is exactly why debatebro culture is like this. The more time you spend debating the facts the less energy you have for convincing people away from their nazi talking points. It’s the biggest reason why “prove it” is so often used by fascists to shut down conversations they don’t like.
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