‘Blatant aggression’: Reactions to US veto of Palestine’s UN membership bid

lemmyseizethemeans, 27 days ago

Hope that guy gets a good sleep tonight and forever and his conscience only troubles him always

Mrkawfee, 27 days ago

UN needs to be disbanded. It’s as useless as the League of Nations.

Sodium_nitride, 27 days ago

What about the UN’s non political work? It does plenty of work regarding health, education, poverty and so on.

TexasDrunk, 27 days ago

I think others have covered what the UN is actually doing and why. So I’m going to ask a question. Based on the thread under your comment, and being specific as to what and why, how would you replace (or abolish) it and why would your replacement (or abolishment) be better than what’s happening now?

I would really love to hear an answer. Others have already pointed out what a shit show global politics are, even at the best of times. If there’s a better way I’ll be the first in line behind you.

Mrkawfee, 27 days ago (edited 27 days ago)

An international organisation of equality like the General Assembly without an elite club who wield veto power and render international law useless. The US has vetoed over 40 resolutions on Israel. Had they not, Israel would long since have been considered a pariah state instead of acting with utter impunity leading to the current genocide. Right now international law is just an extension of Western and specifically of US power which is why no one in the Global South takes it seriously.

filister, 27 days ago

You know Israel can simply ignore the UN resolutions and continue doing what they do. The irony is that Israel exists today thanks to the UN, but that’s another story.

RealFknNito, 27 days ago

Yes. Let’s disband the only gathering of all the nations in a peaceful assembly because politics can get hard sometimes.

Promethiel, 27 days ago

Take it easy on the uneducated y’all. The fact that the failure to get anywhere and still keep meeting is the whole point, is actually not as well known as it ought to be.

Ask yourself dear reader, if world governments didn’t have a place to meet and waste time arguing over geopolitics and agreeing to disagree, how would such disagreements take place?

Theoretically, there are less big regional wars and no world wars anymore thanks to the UN’s founding as the world government’s pressure release valve.

I’ll not share my personal stance on the matter, easy to discern as it may be.

Now, these days are the real test of the institution. It was intended to head off another of what’s brewing (WW), to be a release vent and that’s just fucking laughably not happening as genocide and fascism returns anyways.

So the institution and it’s non-currently disingenuous members (US politics has been financially tied to Zionism too long for a clean break) need to call out the bullshit and the other four need to find their balls too because the only winner in a WW3 will be the US elite and rich, again.

Every other oligarch and oligarch wannabe is dreaming if they think our dragons will align with theirs out of dragonhood if Uncle Sam gets geared for global war again; the US will load it’s cannons with its fodder stock of idiots and no-other-choicers and will once again do their outmost to take whatever path leads to the most rubble elsewhere and the most firesales on cheap foreign bonds. Just like before.

RealFknNito, 27 days ago

See, I only have patience for one kind of stupidity and it’s ignorance. Those who simply haven’t learned and are trying to. They didn’t ask a question though, didn’t inquire for more information, made no attempt to acknowledge the importance of the assembly they claim needs to be disbanded. They made a confidently moronic statement and should be ridiculed as such.

You’re allowed to believe something that’s wrong but the moment you take that belief, turn it into confidence, and then preach that to others as if you knew better - off to the stockade, ready the tomatoes. We have at our disposal countless ways to educate oneself, forums for asking questions, The Library of Alexandria multiplied infinitely at our fingertips. To not use it at the mere prospect of doubt is an insult to everyone who has made such a thing possible.

Politics are hard, they’re messy, they’re really dumb, but they’re important and even when nothing gets done, something does. The UN is a critical pillar of world cohesion even if we haven’t gotten there yet. To dismantle it would be akin to taking a jackhammer to the foundation of a half built home. It should be easy to understand that by anyone paying attention.

DmMacniel, 27 days ago

Who is the US to say who deserves and who doesn’t deserves their own state?

RealFknNito, 27 days ago

The majority contributor to the UN. In both aid and military. This used to be a good thing when we didn’t vote for dogshit or vote against the entire counsel.

Alsephina, 27 days ago

Being the world hegemon gives a state many abilities that some consider to be unnatural

DmMacniel, 27 days ago

Is it possible to learn such power?

Alsephina, 27 days ago

Not from the Global South

Blizzard, 27 days ago

Actually, each of the five permanent UNSC members (China, France, Russia, the U.K., and the U.S.) has the power of veto, but I appreciate Star Wars reference.