After seeing that #RhythmRoulette video, @InSearchOfMyRose let me blind pick some albums for a project. We did not do the fun record store trip though. I still want to do that.
@drosophiliac that is a stumper for me but I have not really challenged myself to consciously understand that one yet. It is a growth and learning process as I go.
This week's #DIYMusicChat will have a guest co-host, someone I work closely with often and trust their advice.. @InSearchOfMyRose
We'll be running it like an #AMA#AskMeAnything session, where between the two of us, we'll definitely have answers whether it is technical, related to #MusicTheory, or perhaps the more soft skill parts of just getting along in #Collab situations!
Before COVID I was playing in a newly-formed Synthwave band. Leader/drummer was a very talented and experienced performer, but had never done tracked music before. He had the hinky-est monitoring setup that was destined to fail at the first trip outside the studio… Rather than make it into a “thing” I let him struggle with it in practice and waited for an opening to suggest an alternative. #DIYMusicChat
@debonairetoast@diymusicchat I already mentioned a religiosity example for me, but 100% of bands/collabs need to deal with what degree that intoxicants affect their group’s ability to function and feel right. If it’s cool, it’s cool, but for a lot of people there’s a cutoff point. I didn’t invite one guy back after his second jam with us because he was clearly more interested in getting high with some bros than he was in learning new music. #DIYMusicChat
@debonairetoast@diymusicchat Approaching it this way prevented any potential friction I might have caused when dealing with a musical peer. We solved the problem and kept it breezy. Sadly the project tanked in COVID before we could unleash our epic Synthwave arrangement of Kenny G’s Songbird on the world 😢 #DIYMusicChat
@Cyrus@diymusicchat absolutely with you on the religiousness. There has to be a match in motivation.
I also agree, that if casual party is the vibe that's ok. But if it is really time to get things done, it has to move smoothly. Intoxicants get in the way of that, for many.
@rykthekreator@diymusicchat to me, maybe because I am neurodivergent, maybe because I hope to be understood in my mistakes too, trust can be lost by mistake not intent.
Often one can misinterpret things, or perhaps the other person is going through unspoken stress that made them act out or behave in less controlled ways.
Trust can be found again if forgiveness is deemed earned or especially reasonable... it all does very much matter how serious the issue.
@diymusicchat when it comes to #professionalism in groups with certain shared goals, one might need to establish hard rules about the lines one should and should not cross.
For my part, I found one of MY hard lines that can not be crossed is that one member can not bring shame on the group. I had to communicate, and act with measured intent while things could still perhaps be resolved.
I believe correction is possible and should be offered as an option when appropriate.
@debonairetoast@diymusicchat#DIYMusicChat
Having no functional sense of ethics is the only real one for me. I guess it seems obvious, but what appears like the classic rock'n'roll band modus operandi of 'stickin it to the man', (ostensibly objecting to corruption in an establishment) can turn out to be vaguely defined enough that 'the man' actually means whoever or whatever stops you from acting however you please, even at someone else's expense. Saw enough red flags in a previous band that -
@rykthekreator@diymusicchat ah.. the deliberate breaking of trust in a collaborative relationship in any creative or working environment is a very serious breech. I agree that perhaps in that case it can not be repaired.
I've had a few instances like that but those were unmemorable.
One recently that is hurtful.. a friend seems to have tried to ruin a work relationship I was trying to establish for both of us for his own personal gain.
@debonairetoast@diymusicchat yup! It's especially awful if you've already sunk years into the project, effort and care into the music and enormous effort into playing it live together as a group. Really tests ones desire to mentally just sweep it under the rug in the name of convenience, and the time you can't get back. :/ #DIYMusicChat
@rykthekreator@diymusicchat i prefer creating with others. Trust once established should be hard to lose under most circumstances.
This contact was going through some personal growth that despite his age felt very adolescent. He had maybe what could be metaphorically called "growing pains". Establishing that, another phrase comes to mind.. "hurting people hurt people"
He tried to climb up by pushing me down. It did not work out for him (nor me) like he thought. Like you said.
@Dace@diymusicchat in so many ways, I am glad to see things like my example so early on in knowing one another that nothing materially established is at risk.
For yours, I am empathetic to that struggle and discomfort. But it does sound like you learned something extremely valuable about yourself?
What you default need from others is often a reflection of how you established standards for your own conduct. It shapes your worldview and expectations of how others make decisions.
@debonairetoast@diymusicchat I suppose I did! That's a more positive way of looking at it than I have so far. Your example definitely seems like a lesson in the benefits of being proactive by comparison. Kinda wish I'd had some more of that impulse sooner. We live and learn! #DIYMusicChat