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@genchat Before I leave, Jan had dropped a load of interesting links that I wanted to share with you:
Ellis Island research guide
https://www.statueofliberty.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Passenger-Search-TipsTricks-1.pdf

And Joe Beine's guide germanroots.com/passengers.html
Be on the lookout for the lists that say who is the relative in the old country and who the passenger is going to meet! Then look for those people and others in the .

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Will catch up later ... an excellent thread today ... thank you all!

Have a good fortnight (or so).

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Q5 - a biggie is explained by a Genealogy Note from Prologue Magazine - American women marrying immigrants could lose their own native citizenship!
https://www.archives.gov/files/publications/prologue/2014/spring/citizenship.pdf

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@BRMiller @genchat Yes, I've seen some posts written by @legalgenealogist about that!

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A5 @genchat A few examples from last night:
Jan - Quotas! See the Immigration Act of 1924. https://history.state.gov/milestones/1921-1936/immigration-act#:~:text=The%20Immigration%20Act%20of%201924%20limited%20the%20number%20of%20immigrants,of%20the%201890%20national%20census

Chris - There was a quota put in place in the late 1920s by the US government that really hampered chain migration. Didn't stop some people...

Me - I was also reading about the Chinese exclusion act & how they had to try to work around it. Probably should have saved the link

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The 'Pieces of History" blog at the US National Archives has several posts on the history of "control" of Chinese Immigration. Use "Chinese" in the search box.

https://prologue.blogs.archives.gov/

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A5 @genchat Of course, specific laws vary by country, but I wouldn't be surprised that many are similar.

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@edintone @genchat Oh, linguistics! I didn't even think of that!

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@genchat @genchat I highly recommend 'By faith alone : one family's epic journey through 400 years of American Protestantism'
by Bill Griffeth. In fact the whole series by Bill Griffeth, as he covers US migration from Europe and the aspects too. It's a great resource if you are not directly concerned with US .

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Q5 What kinds of changes in the law affected chain migration? @genchat

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Stretching "Law" ... change in government policy to subsidised migration ... £10 passages from England to Australia in the 1960s.

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A4 @genchat some answers from last night:
Jan - Tip: Use Stephen P. Morse's One-Step Web Pages to look for Associated Passengers (on the same ticket) during some periods of immigration through Ellis Island.
https://stevemorse.org/ellis2/ellisgold.html

Heather - the focus on who people know - their neighbors, their cousins, their friends - build community. It can help you focus your research. If you encounter a brick wall with one ancestor, using this method might help you uncover more information through another person.

Chris - Letters, stories passed down. Sometimes friends are sponsors on Naturalization papers.

Me - neighborhood/community mapping of FANs can be an indicator of chain migration

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Stories passed down are important for my French cluster; Tony Belllet is my GGF.
Took me forever to find the burial of Marie Dompnier, since all the others are buried in Lee County (formerly Moore County) NC.
The Washington DC events helped track them (once I started looking there) and finding Fanchette's marriage was important since my mother could only tell me that her Aunt's name was "Tante" (Fanchette died 3 years before Mama was born, so she never knew her.)

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Q4 How does FAN research assist in chain migration research? @genchat

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A3b @genchat Other responses from last night: letters, draft cards

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A3b @genchat One thing I thought about is DNA markers & where they're distributed (Ancestry's Communities?). You may see concentrations of certain markers in places.

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Oh - if I said good morning & it's not morning where you are, please forgive me; my coffee hasn't kicked in yet! @genchat

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@genchat @genchat I would not worry, we'll forgive you. It's always morning somewhere!

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ICEBreaker @genchat (Running late today!)

My chain migrants were during the 1880s/early 90s from France; 1st was eldest child Françoise Joséphine Gonella leaving France as a maid with a family going to America in 1884; no passenger list or immigration entry found (since she was a servant it's attached to her employer's record, and we don't know those).

2 years later "Fanchette" marries in Washington DC and her 2nd brother Joseph arrives in New York City. 1/

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@BRMiller Good morning, Betsy! & yes, that sounds like classic chain migration. @genchat

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Q3b Beyond immigration records, what are some other indicators of chain migration? @genchat

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@BRMiller @genchat @RobertJackson58585858 @genchat Thanks Betsy. I need to research mainly in Illinois and Iowa, before I go further back into the east coast. My ancestors on both sides immigrated in the 1600’s.

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I also subscribe. I also struggle to get the search to work cleanly ... It's also difficult to reproduce a search to find things again :(

So I adopted the approach of screenshotting on my tablet anything I will want to keep then upload that image to my tree. I don't bother "linking" the articles to Ancestry.

The Australian (Trove) and NZ newspapers are a public database & rather good to search. Trove has a bot on Mastodon which pumps out a snippet every hour or two.

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@RobertJackson58585858 @genchat @genchat I have a pair of cousins who both emigrated with their families from / to via in 1830 and 1846. Both groups travelled on the same named ship - The Courier, but it appears the two ships were actually different vessels. The cost and logistics of the journey seem to have been quite an achievement at this distance.

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A3a @genchat Some examples from last night were: pages of the censuses (showing neighbors who they may have known in the old country), newspapers, letters, family stories, naturalization records

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@edintone @genchat That is an awesome site. Have you used "Old Fulton Postcards" newspaper site? They have even more pages than the US Library of Congress.

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