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Brendanjones, to memes in fruit of the poisoned cloaca
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@jlou are you applying this to all orgs in the economy, as in saying that public services should be run as pure worker co-ops?

Also, what about hybrid co-ops (like, for example, a consumer/worker co-op) where the workers are the only ones to accrue profits but the consumers have some voting rights?

Brendanjones, to memes in fruit of the poisoned cloaca
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@jlou
A different thread: why only worker co-ops, and not also other sorts of co-ops?

I do wonder if, in order to encourage innovation, it's a good idea to allow non-coops in limited forms.

For example (and feel free to adjust these numbers), you can start a business and employ people but as soon as you pass €1 million revenue or 5 employees (whichever is first) then it has to become a co-op.

The existence of UBI, UBS and an economy that's majority co-ops should limit exploitation.

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Brendanjones, to memes in fruit of the poisoned cloaca
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@jlou Can you expand on number 3? Distributing resources and/or capital for investment is the part of economic democracy for which I've never quite seen a good solution.

I've read Schweickart, Dahl, Olin Wright and Hahnel and none of their proposed systems are that great IMHO.

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