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Brendanjones

@Brendanjones@fosstodon.org

A good life for all within planetary boundaries.

PM/PO/UX-er. 🇳🇱 and 🇦🇺. Avid cyclist and frisbee player. Stubborn optimist.

Mainly here to talk about:
#Sustainability #SystemsThinking #PostGrowth #Degrowth #Climate #ClimateChange #Energy #Renewables #Ecology #EcologicalEconomics #UBS #Coops #Biodiversity #PlanetaryBoundaries #UX #UXDesign #PO #Netherlands #Utrecht

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Brendanjones, to climate
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Can somebody explain to me how any climate scientists think we will stay below 1.5C by 2100? I don’t see how we can keep below 1.5C considering the current temperature, the continued rate of high emissions, and the likely future efforts to reduce emissions (specifically, the insufficient efforts in the near future).

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/may/08/world-scientists-climate-failure-survey-global-temperature

Brendanjones,
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On topic: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/may/09/carbon-dioxide-atmosphere-record

quillmatiq, to fediverse
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I wrote about how E2EE DMs are becoming a very real possibility for the social web. This would mean that users could potentially open DMs to mutuals across the social web without needing a separate account.

Very excited to see where @evan and @tomcoates take this research. More in the link below 👇🏼

https://social.wedistribute.org/objects/a94ead6d-6d50-4753-aeda-32ff016181a0

Brendanjones,
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@quillmatiq @tchambers @evan @tomcoates Will the new protocol work build on the work Dan has been doing with Sup? Or will they be complementary, or … ?

glynmoody, to random
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#Methane emissions from gas flaring being hidden from satellite monitors - https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/may/02/methane-emissions-gas-flaring-hidden-satellite-monitors-oil-gas when you think dirty #fossilfuels can't get any more evil, they do...

Brendanjones,
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@glynmoody @ariadne This paragraph raised questions unanswered by the article:

“Methane and carbon dioxide plumes were seen coming from enclosed flaring devices in the Four Corners region of New Mexico, according to satellite data from CarbonMapper, which provides publicly accessible data on greenhouse gases.”

That sounds like the emissions from enclosed flaring can be seen by satellite, which is the opposite of what the rest of the article says.

aral, to random
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“I don’t understand why everything is so fucked up and we seem incapable of fixing any of it!”

This is because you believe you live in a democracy when you actually live under capitalism.

(And it is functioning exactly as designed.)

PS. Not your fault; you’ve been taught your whole life that the two are complementary when they’re diametrically-opposed.

Brendanjones,
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@mapto @aral One of the various forms of economic democracy is most likely imo. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_democracy

So many variations possible, like https://mastodon.social/@jlou/112080581372175879

Brendanjones, to random
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Now that quote posts are coming (confirmed by Renaud https://oisaur.com/@renchap/112299860209222424 ), I think it important that we have agreed upon acceptable usage.

Quote posts can be an amazing tool – there's a good reason they're so requested – but they also have the potential to add massive amounts of toxicity.

Gargron recognised this years ago: https://mastodon.social/@Gargron/99662106175542726

So here's my proposal for the Do's and Dont's of quote posting on Mastodon. Please boost!

🧵 Thread time:

Brendanjones, (edited )
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First a quick guide:

Ask yourself: does my QP add value? Is it kind?

If not, consider a) commenting on or boosting the post instead, or b) not doing anything.

Let's explore specific examples:

Brendanjones, (edited )
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How to use Quote Posts.

DO:

  1. Share with a hashtag.

If the original post missed one and you think that hashtag’s followers would like to see the post. (Alternatively, suggest to the author that they edit their post to include the hashtag)

  1. Use a post as a jumping off point for a new conversation.

Especially if you think it might be spammy or off-topic if you comment it on the original post.

Brendanjones, (edited )
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How to use Quote Posts (cont.)

DO:
3. Add info or context to a post when the poster is not a person.

For example, quote-posting news articles posted by news outlets or bots.

Brendanjones, (edited )
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How to use Quote Posts (cont.)

DO NOT use a quote post to:

  1. Reply to the author of the quoted post.

This is rude. You’re bringing their conversation into your house. You’re probably doing it because you disagree.

  1. Add information to a post.

You don't need to make yourself the centre of a conversation. Instead, boost the post and add your reply. If your addition is really that brilliant then see "DO: 2. Use a post as a jumping off point for a new conversation."

Brendanjones, (edited )
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How to use Quote Posts (cont.)

DO NOT:
3. Add a low-value comment.

Just boost the post instead. Of course, if you are so bursting with enthusiasm for a post that you want to announce your love for it to your followers then do so, but this should be the exception not the rule.

  1. Spread negativity unnecessarily.

Are you sharing something people need to know about or are you just venting outrage? Negative events do happen and need talking about, but not all negative things need sharing.

Brendanjones,
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How to use Quote Posts (cont.)

ABSOLUTELY DO NOT

This behaviour should earn you a block & report anyway, but absolutely do not use quote posts to:

  1. Dunk on the author.
  2. Prompt your followers to dunk on the author.
  3. Prompt followers of a hashtag you add to dunk on the author.
Brendanjones,
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I hope this thread is useful and something people can link to when they see someone abusing quote posts.

I welcome additions to and discussion of this list - please fire away!

Brendanjones,
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My main concern around QPs is not blatant abuse/harassment. We have ways to deal with that here.

My concern is more negativity and lower quality posts. It's a slow degradation towards outrage and confrontational discourse.

I think my 2022 comment on the QP request on Github still stands up: https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/20673#issuecomment-1329461693

Brendanjones,
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@nicol mitigated, yes. And the Mastodon team are planning on implementing QP controls so whoever doesn't want their posts QP'd will have that option. Same thing with reply controls, it mitigates but doesn't prevent trouble.

But many will allow QPs on their posts, so this is why we need usage standards.

Brendanjones,
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@hackbyte then why are you interacting with 'mastodontists' ...

Brendanjones,
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@NatureMC They're guidelines only, and I gave exceptions 🤷 If anyone does the 'Do Not' things I'm not going to be blocking them, the worst I'd do is unfollow or mute if they do it repetitively. Same as what I do if I don't want someone's normal posting in my feed.

I'll be reporting/blocking if people do the 'Absolutely do not' things though.

I already see dunk culture on Bluesky with QPs and I don't like it.

Brendanjones,
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@eco_amandine @NatureMC reply restrictions are on their roadmap as 'exploring': https://joinmastodon.org/roadmap

It's the third-most upvoted feature on Github so you'd think it'd have fairly high priority: https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/8565

Brendanjones,
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@urlyman yup! Guidelines only. Subjective as hell.

And yeah “be thoughtful, don’t be an ass” is right. Basically the same as "Does it add value and is it kind?"

https://fosstodon.org/@Brendanjones/112302629478694481

renchap, (edited ) to random
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Nobody seems to have noticed it but the Mastodon project have been granted funding by @NGIZero in the Entrust fund.

This is amazing, but the best part is that this funding is targeted at implementing… Quote Posts 🎉

This effort started several months ago and we already did some preliminary work, but this will be a big feature for our next 4.4 version. This funding will cover the ActivityPub work, as well as backend, web frontend and official mobile app implementation.

Brendanjones, (edited )
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@livelylion6 @renchap @NGIZero Yeah we need some strong cultural values around how QPs are used in order to not fall foul to all the negativity they can bring.

Here's my take on it: https://fosstodon.org/@Brendanjones/112302625395751563

ttpphd, to random
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Look at this beauty at the VA! I don't know much about fungi. Is this a turkey tail?

Brendanjones,
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@ttpphd looks like Turkey Tail indeed! (but please get it ID'd locally if you're planning on consuming it)

firstdogonthemoon, to random
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It's not my place to judge Guardian readers' food choices. That's for other Guardian readers to do. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2024/apr/12/shameless-guardian-readers-share-their-favourite-perverse-food-combinations

Brendanjones,
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@firstdogonthemoon Banana and mayonnaise sandwich. I know, it sounds disgusting, but try it once and tell me it’s not delicious.

Brendanjones, to climate
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Fantastic. This is the kind of thing that'll directly drive reductions in fossil fuel projects.

"Zurich Insurance Group AG will no longer underwrite new oil and gas projects, and is cracking down on clients planning to expand in metallurgical coal mining."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-08/zurich-insurance-to-halt-coverage-of-new-fossil-fuel-exposures

Brendanjones, to climate
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In a credibility-destroying move, the Science Based Targets initiative (SBTi) have decided to allow companies to count offsets towards reducing their scope 3 emissions.

Five SBTi teams have written an open letter calling for the CEO and Board who voted in favour to resign, and other orgs have also come out against it: https://carbonmarketwatch.org/publications/open-letter-on-the-use-of-carbon-credits-to-meet-scope-3-ghg-targets/

Full summary here: https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/companies-get-green-light-use-offsets-supply-chain-emissions-2024-04-10/

Brendanjones,
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The statement from the SBTi board of trustees, explaining the move: https://sciencebasedtargets.org/news/statement-from-the-sbti-board-of-trustees-on-use-of-environmental-attribute-certificates-including-but-not-limited-to-voluntary-carbon-markets-for-abatement-purposes-limited-to-scope-3

drewdevault, to opensource
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https://writefreesoftware.org

Introducing Write Free Software: A comprehensive educational resource for the free software community

https://writefreesoftware.org/blog/introducing-writefreesoftware.org/

Brendanjones,
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@drewdevault @smallcircles Great resource! One piece of feedback: might be good to include a discussion of when ‘free’ means ‘libre’ and when it means ‘gratis’.

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