Debo

@Debo@lemmy.world

That’s my bike.

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Debo,

Low-grav, insta-gib is the best play mode.

Debo,

To be fair, I don't think any of us know reddit's costs nor its revenue. We do know that the current CEO says that they are "not profitable". But let's just pretend for a minute that if reddit did what you say (scale down, stop the NFT TT bullshit) that they'd be a 'stable successful business'.

Ask yourself: Would YOU want to work for a company that's just eeking by, with limited growth or upward potential for your personal income? I sure as hell wouldn't. If reddit 'tried' to act like a co-operative they'd quickly lose the limited talent they do have to be replaced by "digital babysitters" who have the skills to reboot a server when it hangs and not much else. They certainly ain't going to attract the devs who can actually CREATE the mod tools that we've been after for YEARS.

At some point we need reddit and other sites like it to be profitable so that they can attract talent to continue to develop and expand the features of the site or else some other company will come along and do exactly that, putting reddit out of business.

Does reddit need to become profitable solely off the backs of API calls, no; which is why I'm here (and you too I assume) but we cannot pretend that any of this work is either easy or free to produce.

Debo,

Hit the refresh button on your browser. I’ve been having the same issue and a refresh has solved it!

To be clear: put in your creds, let the spinny thing spin for a few seconds, THEN refresh your browser.

Debo,

Every population follows a standard, normal distribution curve. At the tips of this curve are the trailblazers (who left and came to lemmy) and the opposite side who feel as passionate about staying as we did about leaving.

Now that we’ve moved the 3 rd standard deviation off of Reddit, the curve has shifted and the opposite deviation is amplified.

This is to be expected when you have a population-level shift in any observed population. :)

Debo,

This is my favorite post.

Debo,

Where were they at when you saw them? Were they with anyone? Did they look happy?

Debo,

I lean to the right in my political views yet I do not exhibit any of the behaviors that you are subscribing to an entire population. Consider being more exact with your words lest you alienate people with vitriol.

Debo,

HAH! I was just thinking, “huh, this is weird, but I think I could get used to it” and then your post came in and I accidentally clicked on it!!! Good to hear that it’s a known issue w/ a resolution in 0.18.0

Debo,

We have to solve the content curation problem IMO. If we all love lemmy.world or sh.itjust.works and post 1000's of hours of content to either and one of them just "shutters" the server then all that content is GONE. Or, am I missing something about how all this works?

If we want to "join" servers we need some type of content migration tool that allows the user to determine where their content is actually "hosted".

We may see individual servers for heavy content creators as they'll want some way to ensure that all of the federated servers can continue to access their content right?

Debo,

Yes, but the problem is that your analogy isn't a 1-2-1 comparison. You are correct that at reddit we had r/tech, r/technology, r/technews, etc etc etc, but on lemmy, ALL OF THOSE can be named "Technology" with exactly the same spelling. So, when I'm trying to refer someone to a "specific" Technology, I also have to include the server. A conversation may go, "Hey WooChoo, you gotta check out the posts over on Lemmy. They have the best Technology content on the internet" Then you go to some rando "Technology" on a new lemmy server and you don't see any posts. What are the chances that you come back to me and say, "Hey Debo, remember that referral you gave me 6 weeks ago when we were talking? I went there and there wasn't any users." "Oh, sorry WooChoo, I forgot that you have to go to "THIS SPECIFIC SERVER of Technology" and then you're in a federation conversation when you were just trying to share a hot tip.

Debo,

It's fractured by design. There are good things about being fractured. What we actually need is a "fractured" system with an aggregator to ensure the best user experience. You've heard of a system like this before: Cryptocurrencies are by nature 'fractured' but they use the term 'decentralized' and it's what brings safety and security to digital assets. What we need is a "Coinbase" or a "Binance" who "aggregates" all of the "coins" so that a user can just go to the exchange and see ALL of the digital currencies without having to know each of their names and server addresses in advance.

Debo,

I didn’t even know browse.feddit.de existed until you posted it!!! Hot tip right there. :)

Debo,

Yes, and this is part of the problem. The great thing about an aggregation site is that it's a collective place for ALL posts about a single topic, say /r/Technology. With Lemmy, you might have DOZENS of /c/technology communities and for you to get the VALUE of the MASS of users, you'd need to subscribe to them all. This is a significant barrier to mass adoption as "my wife" won't be bothered to go out to many servers and subscribe to many communities just to get a reasonable flow of content.

Debo,

Yeah, but not really. You couldn’t create r/Doug twice. You could create r/Dougs or r/Dougie, but not two r/Doug. Here, you can create a “Doug” for every server that exists.

I have hope for solutions though. There’s only about 8,000 active subreddits in total. The cream will rise to the top quickly and we’ll all get used to subscribing to the ‘top 3 or 4’ “Doug” communities and I’m sure the apps developed for Lemmy will ‘combine’ those behind the scenes for a smoother user experience.

Debo,

Look, as long as I don’t have to remember both a community AND a server name, I’m good. I just don’t want to hav to remember and / or subscribe to multiple things with the exact same name.

Debo,

These are great questions. I have the same about communities: if I create “Funny” on this Lemmy.world, does that prevent someone from creating a “Funny” community on another Lemmy server? If it does not, will there be millions of “Funny” communities?

Debo,

Yikes. How would any community get any real consolidation or aggregation? I don’t want to have to know where to find the popular community of “Funny” lives ya know?

Debo,

I understand that those may be beneficial, but I struggle to see any “aggregation” happening when every server can have every duplicate of every community. Think of how much disinformation will exist from bots creating duplicate communities from large lemmy servers on small lemmy servers then posting what’s NOT the community creators desired content. It’s difficult enough to moderate a community without having to explain that lemmy.world’s “funny” community is different and doesn’t contain the same content as “funny” on a different server. This is not aggregation.

Debo,

Again though, you’re leaving the aggregation up to the user. They would have to know of the existence of those other communities to even add them via multi style. To my knowledge we weren’t looking for more focused, we were looking for an aggregation platform like Reddit without the monetization of our content and moderation efforts.

Debo,

What have I done…

Debo,

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Debo,

I said please!

Debo,

Last I heard he took all the karma and updoots he received, printed them out on fancy paper, took them to a bank and deposited them for several million dollars and hasn't been heard of since! ;)

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