I don’t personally understand how you can say Bethesda games are incredibly shallow. I’ve put HOURS into Skyrim for years now and yet I keep finding new things in vanilla. I haven’t even done all the quests, and the list just goes on and on. IMO the world building and attention to detail they do is amazing. Yes I think Obsidian in general does a better job, especially story wise, as I played The Outer Worlds and it was incredible what you could do, especially with the variety of story elements. And I’d be lying if I said there weren’t anything that frustrated me that they did in Oblivion or Skyrim story wise or player choice wise. But to say it’s shallow? I don’t get it.
And personally I feel the only thing TRULY half baked that Bethesda does is the stability and bugginess of their games. Skyrim was a mess on release. Fallout 4 was better but still pretty buggy. They do fix bugs but yeah I get it. They do sort of leave it all up to modders and personally I believe that was a big reason why they tried so hard to get mods on consoles.
New Vegas was one I desperately wanted to like as from what I’ve seen, the story looks fantastic. But I’ve tried to like it for years now and just can’t get into it. Everything about it that I’ve played is great, but the setting itself is just so boring to me. It feels like the majority of the map is just desert. It doesn’t feel fun. It feels like a chore. Maybe I’m playing it wrong. I hope I am.
I don’t personally get that empty feeling you do. I played Oblivion in 2010 and then Skyrim on release and have fallen in love with those games. So much to do it feels like.
Yeah, I agree. I feel that way about No Mans Sky though, and it creates a scenario where you are entertained for a couple hours and then realize there’s nothing to do anymore. It’s just a loop. For all that they’ve added, and as much as I commend them for that, the core mechanics are still flawed.
With Skyrim I don’t get that. I’m always finding shit. Something different. Cutting off fast travel was a game changer.
I was team Ulfric until I found out about the shit he did, and what the Thalmor did to him.
I had an hour long conversation about the civil war with my brother. That is how much of an impact this game had to us. I will never understand how people can sit there and say Skyrim is boring. It’s boggling.
Mainly because I feel like he IS missing out. And frankly, his arguments AGAINST mods just don’t make any sense. If he just said, “I enjoy vanilla and that’s all that matters”, then sure. But he was legitimately making arguments against mods.
I mean, maybe it’s because I live in North Texas but on occasion me and close friends will use it when talking about subjects in private. What’s the problem there?
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