I kinda hope that “Legacy” does get off the ground, if for no other reason than that all the folks champing at the bit for it will be confronted by the fact that once you take out the TNG cast, what you’re left with is show created by the same dude who was showrunner for season two of PIC and who thinks owning a BttF DeLorean is a personality trait, featuring the Scrappy Doo of Star Trek.
Who’s angry? I just don’t think he’s a particularly good showrunner, and if not for people being blinded by his over reliance on fan service and nostalgia, it wouldn’t even be a question.
I imagine at least part of it is that it’s seen as likely going to be the last opportunity to give the actors, especially Patrick Stewart, these awards.
As always, I will not actually believe there is a new Trek movie being made until my butt is in the seat, with a popcorn in one hand, Dr. Pepper in the second hand, opening credits already rolling on the screen.
Y’know, I don’t think I’ve ever actually seen Mr. Pibb available here, but I still believe my having one at the theatre is more likely than there being a new Star Trek movie in theatres any time soon.
I don’t think your assessment of the Luna-class and the Constitution III is accurate. They are entirely different, and the PIC production crew deciding that “refit” is basically just a word that the Starfleet Corps of Engineers will drop at a hat doesn’t change that.
The instagram log that explains the history of the Titan A claims that it was constructed “using much of the internal components” of the Luna-class ship, and that’s why it’s a refit, but that plans to build the new ship on the spaceframe of the old were set aside mid-way through.
Yeah, absolutely. But that’s not really what the term refit means.
And if that is a refit in Starfleet parlance – as the instagram log claims it is – than what prevents the Lamaar-class Voyager from also being a refit. Keep in mind that in “The Star Gazer”, Picard claimed that the new Stargazer was also a refit, and, according to Matalas, it was a refit of the Constellation-class Stargazer:
"Like the TMP Enterprise, it’s a massively updated refit. I like to think of it as the story of the broom: If one day you replace the handle, and another day the brush, is it still the same broom? We thought of it as a vessel endlessly repaired and upgraded, brought in-line with current-future tech, so that somewhere underneath all the lights and polish are the bones of Picard’s original ship. Does it make sense? I don’t know. But I sure like the spirit of it."
Now, personally, I would prefer to not take anything Terry Matalas says seriously, but a lot of people seem tot think he should be Trek’s new torchbearer, so there’s a good chance we’ll see a lot more of this nonsense in the future.
I don’t think either of us are arguing against the Federation reusing old components.
The only point of contention is that you were sceptical that the Voyager A could be a refit of an Intrepid-class starship due to the size disparity, and my argument is that, even though I am personally not a fan, the was the current crop of Trek showrunners have decided to use the term size doesn’t really matter with regards to what is or is not a refit.
Anyone play any Star Trek Tabletop games? (Specifically STA, the SFU games from ADB, or Attack Wing/Alliance)? I wanted to get a tabletop gaming magazine together for that, but I don't know if it has a justifying interest.
Modiphius used to have a free pdf magazine to support their product lines, and the third issue has an STA adventure titled "The Ghost Writer" that I've used as an intro to the game three different times, twice in what was specifically a "learn to play" scenario. I think it's a pretty decent little adventure that makes for a good one shot.
Also, the first time I played as a PC, the GM of that game ran the intro adventure from the core rulebook. It's pretty good as well, though it does include the extended task mechanics which I think are useful but wouldn't use in an intro game.