caveman

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caveman, (edited )

Hi, you said you are from Ashkenazi descent.

I actually also try to learn from Jewish side. I haven read a book from Nahum Goldmann “Jewish paradox”, now I’m reading Theodor Herzl “Jewish State” and I plan to read more.

What else do you recommend me to read on ZOB or any other relevant topic?

caveman,

Do you have some videos about ZOB? I found this from Edelman, but it’s in Polish and I can’t understand it. He complains about Zionists:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za-33l43wqc

Oh that. Well, when we met with him, they were very important because they were already involved in the Bricha affair. Those Zionists, they’re a bunch of horrible political agitators, Ben Gurion, a right bunch, political agitators

caveman,

That’s what Nazis said when reports of mass graves in Germany came!

caveman,

In Germany now this is called “Holocaust denial” and it’s a crime.

As much a some Nazi will deny a genocide, some pro Israel extremists will deny they learned from Nazis how to commit a genocide

caveman,

You are in denial, either intentionally or not.

caveman,

Denial happens all times, not only in Holocaust.

The nazis also went to Warsaw Ghetto and gave once a dinner to starving Jews and made a movie out of it to prove to their population that they were treated well and were complaining for nothing.

But if you want something specific, you can look on the site below, which starts with denials beginning 1942:

…ushmm.org/…/holocaust-denial-key-dates

A small excerpt:

*1942–44 To conceal the evidence of their annihilation of Europe’s Jews, Germans and their collaborators destroy evidence of mass graves at the Belzec, Sobibor, and Treblinka killing centers, and at thousands of sites of mass shooting operations throughout German-occupied Poland, the German-occupied Soviet Union, and Serbia, including Babi Yar, in an operation code named Aktion 1005.

1943 In a speech to SS Generals at Poznan, Heinrich Himmler, Reich Leader (Reichsführer) of the SS (Schutzstaffel; Protection Squadrons), remarks that the mass murder of the European Jews will be kept secret, never to be recorded.*

caveman,

Hi, I actually posted an article from Mondoweiss, but it was taken down for “not being a credible source”.

I think if you read the families reactions from there you will be able of answering your own questions.

They quote families looking for disappeared babies for long time, finding them on the bad, and also people tied via their hands on their backs inside bags, eyes blinded.

I don’t believe the population would take people with their hands tied and eyes blinded in such a dehumanizing way and put them inside bags.

Here is it:

mondoweiss.net/…/i-felt-like-pulling-my-heart-out…

I’m interested in hearing how the articles answers your questions.

Thanks

caveman,

According to IDF it’s a Palestinian… Oops, Hamas dolphin!

He brought it to himself

/Ironic

caveman,

Well, I’m not there, but if I was Hamas I would never kill any children.

I saw another day some signs written “kidnapped” put by some Jewish people and first I thought “it’s Zionist propaganda”, but when I got near and I saw children I felt so so so sorry. I cannot Imagine any parent deserve this, be it Palestinian or Israeli.

I cannot do anything bad to children.

There’s an interview with Palestinians ok the street about what they think of the 7th October, and many seem to disagree on Hamas for hurting children:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_AR71W6l3M

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