With that said, I think it’s a pretty amazing concept that they can. Terrible, sure, but nonetheless amazing.
I've been calling it a double-edged sword from the moment I knew that could happen in Mastodon and after I joined Lemmy, we see as normal to block lemmygrad from the beginning and that's understandable, but if an owner goes block-happy they could leave a lot of people stranded and inside their echo-chamber.
They'd be losing everything then and would be forced to migrate to other instance or create their own which may be too much as time goes by and people post more and more.
I said this from the beginning but until we get migration tools to carry our content with us to other instance, think of your account as disposable.
It isn't about keeping it alive or improving the game, it's about milking the idiots who keep shelling out money and defending battlepasses + mtx, once the money runs out they'll just kill it and move on.
I think downvotes are ok as long as they show the real ammounts along the upvotes, besides there's no karma here.
Also for those that say people could abuse downvotes to bury discussion, well guess what? People abuse upvotes too to increase their visibility, then we should disable upvotes so they can't be abused either, right?
I think it's ok if an instance decides to disable them (or both) if they don't want or can't deal with being downvoted, but trying to spread it to other instances is just trying to create a circlejerk.
Everyone, there has been a lot of miss information about what is a tankie and the ability for the lemmy community to criticize the Chinese government....
A couple of days before the reddit blackout there were some posts pointing out examples of the main lemmy instance mods/devs banning people and censoring news/comments that tried to criticise the CCP, it was easy to confirm because there's the modlog, I don't know if it's still there or if they are still doing it, but there's a precedent.
Also they host and federate with lemmygrad.
Still there's no real worry about it, the rest of the instances (specially those created by the reddit blackout) are not controlled or manipulated by those devs (most if not all of them already block lemmygrad). Also I think anyone could make their own fork of the server software, not sure about how open is the software.
They own and federate with lemmygrad, also were the owners/mods of r/comunism and the complains seem to come from way before (from those that came before the reddit blackout), it's not sketchy or coincidential, it's deliberated.
I don't agree with your last statement, in the end the instance belongs to someone else and they placed rules that we agreed to follow the moment we joined.
Just like with everything else, being free to say whatever you want doesn't mean being free of consequences.
That seems very contradictory to me if it’s true, but I’m still trying to make sense of it, so maybe there’s something I’m missing.
Basically they are trying to keep the propaganda machine going, it won't make sense.
Yes, absolutely. They can do whatever they want on their server, including censoring opposing political viewpoints. I can say I think that’s a bad thing to do, because to me, using control of a platform to censor your opponents’ political viewpoints is in fact very bad. I mean if they actually do support Russia and the CCP, then I guess it’s not surprising if they’re okay with censoring opposing views, but to me, it’s wrong. They can do it – people can do a lot of things – but it doesn’t mean that every thing a person can choose to do is right.
Just to be an ass: there is no absolute right or wrong, to them we are in the wrong and should submit to their ideas, to us they are wrong for trying to censor and limit discussion.
This isn’t that though. The phrase is “prior restraint.” If I go out and accuse someone of something, and it’s not true and they sue me for libel and prove me wrong and I’m punished for it, that’s consequences. If someone’s not allowing the accusation to exist in the first place, that’s not free speech with consequences, that’s someone controlling and approving beforehand what I’m allowed and not allowed to say
Oh right, then it was a phrasing problem as we agree on that.
if you did that with that amount of power, what are you going to do if you wind up later on with more power?
I mean... just look around and there are many examples and multipying.
At least for this context, it's not so big because the users can ditch that instance and register at a different one, if they actually get extreme they'll just get defederated or if they defederate too many instances they will isolate themselves and the server software can be forked, so there's at least some safes in place.
I mean, almost all social media has a learning curve but Lemmy is one that if you don't put in the effort you're not going to learn it and use it. It's not seamless to master....
Welcome to anything that isn't mainstream.
Altough I've had this talk with some people and I have to agree, most projects that are open source, foss, federated, selfhosted and such... are either cumbersome, requiere technical know-how, are complex (either to use, setup or update), think that command-line is good for everyone or have no users (or the userbase is questionable [and I don't mean porn, I mean like voats was]).
Centralized services just work, that's how you get the approval of people willing to try (without technical knowledge) and without the money to buy servers or upgrades.
The rest will follow influencers, brands/products or goverment accounts, so we're pretty much at lost there.
A lot of mexican communities (mostly the ones for memes) are not exactly active when it comes to moderation, I doubt they'll take part but mostly due to being ignorant about it.
A great question, porn/sexuality is a great deal for many users (me, included) and Reddit tried to make them go away or at least hide them; I have no idea why is it not allowed in so many Lemmy instances (if not all of them) but I hope that changes in the not so far future, otherwise we're going to be missing one of the biggest reasons people use Reddit and might not move to a Lemmy instance.
If you go to r/ListOfSubreddits there's a pinned thread with a REALLY LONG list of NSFW subs, going asking or checking all of them is something that would require time... like, a LOT of time.
For the instances that would be down... I'd really doubt there is one right now, at least the ones I checked just seemed to subscribe to the no NSFW rule.
Im joining in on the reddit ditching thing, and was kinda worried at first that i wouldnt be able to like use it the way i did reddit as it feels like a whole new place, but after engaging with posts and people and actually being a part of lemmy rather than being lurk mode all the time i was pleasantly surprised with how easy it...
It's fine, but it's a pain having to create multiple accounts when some instances aren't linked to the one you picked to create an username. For the rest I think the other comments have already pointed out what would need to improve in the future if we expect to leave Reddit; curiously, most of the problems we have here are the same or similar to the ones while trying to use Mastodon.
Yes, if a community is inside an instance that isn't linked to the one where you registered then those won't appear inside your search and you won't be able to subscribe to them, if you want to subscribe to them you have to create a new user inside an instance that can communicate with it... If that's not how it's supposed to happen, then I found a bug
I think you need to create at least one community inside your instace for others to be able to federate to it (tried it but with just the instance doesn't seem to work).
Beehaw* defederated us? (sh.itjust.works)
Overwatch 2 Can’t Afford A Season This Mid (kotaku.com)
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On lemmy Tankies and the miss treatment of Muslims
Everyone, there has been a lot of miss information about what is a tankie and the ability for the lemmy community to criticize the Chinese government....
how do we report problematic instances?
there is a rightwinger instance constantly showing up in my feed and blocking users/communities one by one is getting a bit annoying :/
Anyone else feel that Lemmy won't attract anyone not interested in learning new ways to do things?
I mean, almost all social media has a learning curve but Lemmy is one that if you don't put in the effort you're not going to learn it and use it. It's not seamless to master....
What bots would you like to see on Lemmy?
Hi, I'm learing python and I was thinking about createing Lemmy bot.
Reddit's r/sysadmin mods have chosen NOT to participate in the blackout (www.reddit.com)
No, we will not be going dark. The reasons are simple:...
Why is porn not allowed on this site
Excuse my ignorance im just curious.
How has ur lemmy experience been so far?
Im joining in on the reddit ditching thing, and was kinda worried at first that i wouldnt be able to like use it the way i did reddit as it feels like a whole new place, but after engaging with posts and people and actually being a part of lemmy rather than being lurk mode all the time i was pleasantly surprised with how easy it...
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