Well, I don’t use any of those apps you just listed because, like Meta, they’re all privacy invading nightmares. And yet here I am using ‘the modern web’. If you genuinely believe they have a solid record when it comes to web tech then - well, you’re entitled to that opinion, but I don’t share it. I think they have an awful record, in that their tech works, but it doesn’t result in products that make the web better.
It’s hardly baseless FUD to suggest Meta might utilise EEE as a growth mechanism when they’ve actually participated in doing exactly that in the past.
And the reason Threads isn’t available in the EU is partly the reason you suggest but also in large part because of data privacy concerns. The EU knows full well that’s Meta’s business model. Hoover up peoples personal data and sell it on.
You also seem to be struggling with what EEE actually means. The ‘extend’ part of that entails rolling out a modified, non-standard version of the protocol which better serves their interests but is still technically able to federate with other systems. The ‘extinguish’ part is the years-later death of the original protocol.
“this isn’t a place for normies, normies go home!!!” - who suggested that? What I actually said was pretty much the opposite of that. I’d love to see open protocol based apps become standard. You, on the other hand, seem to want tighter and tighter ties between corporations and standards. That’s the kind of thinking the led to this absolute shit-show of data harvesting companies and ad-stuffed apps that’s currently the norm.
Not wanting to embrace a ‘growth at all costs, commercialism is our saviour’ attitude is not the same as saying ‘normies go home’.
I don’t use PayPal, no. I don’t use Slack or Teams. I don’t use the Reddit app, I don’t use Twitter, I don’t use Spotify etc etc etc…really not sure whats difficult for you to grasp about any of that but feel free to doubt whatever you like. I know exactly what react is. I prefer to use vue myself. I use privacy respecting front ends for places like Wikipedia etc. I’m sure I’ve occasionally used something that’s powered by React but I try and avoid shitware generally.
You need to re-read what I wrote about EEE because you still don’t understand it. You also need to look into their history.
‘as much as I don’t like capitalism’ uh-huh, its obvious you loathe capitalism my friend, in the same way rampant closeted homophobes hate gay men.
Your point about Linux is facile and shows little to no understanding of the history of its development or why its ‘advertising’ is the way it is. Its the same reason you keep banging on about ‘embrace the corporations!’ - you just can’t fathom the idea of creating something out of love and enjoyment for people to use freely. That’s not success to you. Success isn’t success until it experiences uncontrolled growth, complete with marketing drives and shareholder options.
“shows you literally have zero clue what React is”
To develop stuff my friend. How did you not grasp that?
" surprise! GitHub uses React!"
Uh-huh and as I said, I’m sure I’ve used React occasionally I just tend to avoid it if possible.
“I think you need to take a history lesson on the web. I gave multiple examples of tech Facebook has backed, and yet EEE hasn’t happened to any of them.”
And yet, some it has. You seem unable to parse that.
“Also I noticed you’re avoiding the “EU will come down on Facebook if they get out of line” side of my argument. Also curious.”
Not quite what you said. You said the EU will penalise Meta if they don’t federate. All they have to do to avoid that is create a protocol that ensures they can technically achieve that, doesn’t have to be the actual ActivityPub protocol. That’s literally how EEE works. I avoided that so much I only mentioned it twice before.
'oh, wait, you probably don’t use Google) ’
True, I don’t. I use Whoogle. Open source, privacy respecting front end - I’d advise you check it out but you’d probably want to buy it because you think thats how open source software gets better.
‘You probably didn’t know Vue was created by a Google engineer and Google uses it internally’
No, I do know all that. Not really sure what difference any of that makes though.
‘Not to mention you say you never used the Reddit app. I never said anything about the Reddit app. I was talking about the Reddit website. ’
Yep, I use the site. I check out the sub I mod using an open source, privacy respecting front end. If there’s anything untoward, I login via the site in a Firefox containerised tab with UBO enabled.
‘But you’ve made multiple factual inaccuracies’
Go right ahead and quote them.
‘you never source anything you say, you just constantly pout like the world is ending and try to force everyone else to do things your way.’
Well, sorry about all the pouting and I’m sorry to disappoint but I have no interest in forcing anyone to do anything. I say my piece, people can take it or leave it.
’ I suggest you stop spreading yours as factual,’
What have I stated as being factual that isn’t factual? Are you sure you’re not mixing up ‘having an opinion on what might happen’ with ‘claiming something as fact’?
Yet Another Post About Threads/Defederating and 'wait and see'
Sorry. I know it’s getting a bit annoying with all these posts obsessing over this subject but still…...