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Likely fake, sadly, no confirmation and ua channels say it’s fake.

redfoxinabox,
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No need to invent new stuff, Ukraine can use them for parts, as false targets on airfields, or just repair some of them.

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It’s non-credible missile defence.

The numbers are, however, not made up, and that’s what makes the post funny in my opinion. For example here is a table for ballistic ranges derived from missile velocity; of course, like, it’s the roughest of estimations, because Sprint burns out very quickly and also would possibly slow down quicker than a TBM due to base drag, this could be mitigated, but whatever.

Ranges

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Exoatmospheric interception is convinient, but can be made much harder with decoys, and those decoys can be very compact (a.e. inflatable warhead imitators), US BMD AFAIK isn’t even meant to deal with them. An ICBM deploys a “funnel” (don’t know the English technical term) of those targets along with real warheads, exactly to make interception difficult. Sprint was developed to intercept warheads below 60 km, where inflatable decoys, foil, radar reflectors etc would be either slowed down by drag way more than real warheads or burn up. Heavy decoys exist, but they take space on the missile and eat into payload weight significantly.

I took that concept and flipped it on its head, with interception happening before any decoys are released at all. Exoatmospheric interception is too credible anyway, and US already tried every whacky version of it, lol.

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w<

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It isn’t meant to intercept everything, just something, rest could be left to more conventional BMD. Kazakhstan in NATO sounds fun tho.

Road-mobile ICBMs, well, they are based in particular areas and Topol can only launch from a relatively small number of pre-determined sites, no idea why or on what’s the situation with Topol-M or Yars. Some are based close enough to Belarus to be in range of this proposed system, Belarus in NATO when

They only carry one warhead through, credible answer is to intercept the warheads outside the atmosphere, non-credible answer is to build a ground-to-ground strike capability into my system, then watch the launchers from orbit and strike before missiles are fully erected.

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They are slow enough to be counter-intercepted by antiair artillery

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side impact - nothing Not nessesarily, perhaps?

A steel beam weights 10 to 100 kg per meter, railway rail is 40 kg/meter, so I’ll take 50 kg. Four story building in Europe is approximately 12m.

In the drawing, beam+timber are almost as long as the building is tall, so for simplicity we can assume 11m, of which 5m is the beam and 6m is the timber, and we can assume the pendulum being suspended at 1m above ground in resting position. Beam’s centre of mass is located at half it’s length, so 8.5m is our effective length. Angle at which the beam-timber are standing looks like, dk, 35°? Then, the beam is suspended ~5m above ground. A 250 kg beam would have potential energy of 12.5 kJ (close to .50 cal). Alternatively, I can guestimate a 100° swing arc and 32 kJ energy, which is slightly more than muzzle energy of 14.5mm anti tank rifle. With panzers 3 or 4 we’re looking at something like 15-20mm side armour, 14.5mm B-32 bullet (steel core) could pen 32mm at range, probably closer to 40+? point-blank. Of course, a bullet concentrates this force on a small area, through an I beam could also hit with a corner, give or take bigger kinetic energy of the beam and the need to puncture (absolute best case scenario, ofc) 15mm instead of 40+, and the fact that the bullet doesn’t expend all energy purely during pen, so required energy for penetration is even lower. Another interesting moment in considering impact to and near hatches, welds, riveted joints, etc, is that unlike a bullet, which penetrates and carries a significant portion of it’s kinetic energy inside - even a steel beam which initially punctured the armour with it’s corner would still get stuck and transfer all its energy to whichever it hit.

In conclusion, with an older/lighter WW2 tank the beam under optimal conditions could maybe perforate the armour, break some welds, or at least dent it. And if we’re talking about a less armoured vehicle, like an APC or an armoured car- the beam can either go through or significantly bend the ppate, likely disabling the vehicle. Could even work against IFVs (BMPs are cardboard, there are areas on the side which can be penned with small arms), through it’s hard to imagine how it would be worth the hassle in modern context. And in any case crew would get disorientated by their whole world turning into a bell.

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