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“Once you’ve been to Gaza, you’ll never stop wanting to beat Benjamin Netanyahu to death with your bare hands.”

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It’s the Schrödinger nukes.

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I agree that the article should mention such things.

However from what I read he seems to have only been “reprimanded” or suspended from meetings for it, not actually suspended as a minister.

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I would imagine many but not most were killed by the IDF. Then again, they are the ones with tanks and helicopters.

Scoop: Israel proposes 2-month fighting pause in Gaza for release of all hostages (www.axios.com)

Israel has given Hamas a proposal through Qatari and Egyptian mediators that includes up to two months of a pause in the fighting as part of a multi-phase deal that would include the release of all remaining hostages held in Gaza, two Israeli officials said....

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Do you really think people opposed to genocide are Hamas supporters? Not very wise to black/white the narratives.

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Wasn’t that you that cited to me a video of Al Israa college being destroyed and even a journalists at the White House was insisting it showed a controlled demolition and implosion, and it absolutely did not show that? I think that happens over and over.

Check that last comment I wrote you about it. Turns out the IDF is basically saying it was a controlled explosion that they approved, alongside other controlled explosions. I think it’s on Times of Israel. I thought you read that kind of stuff.

Families of hostages storm Knesset meeting after Netanyahu rejects Hamas offer (www.theguardian.com)

Family members of Israelis held hostage in the Gaza Strip have stormed a parliamentary meeting in Jerusalem to demand that Israel’s government does more to return their loved ones, as fighting in Khan Younis reached unprecedented levels....

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Why cannot the Palestinian people and seem to organize and get rid of Hamas, put an end to suicide bombers blowing themselves up at coffee shops and what not?

75 years of oppression and apartheid. Seriously try accomplishing anything if this is your life. My grandparents survived the Nakba and were ethnically cleansed. Those who tried to defend our home town were killed by Israel. Add to that the Deir Yassin massacre which prompted the family to flee for their lives and Israeli settlers took over their homes and turned it into a settlement after erasing its name and history. My father grew up in a refugee camp in Jordan under poverty, had to study his way through to even make any livable wage. My grandma had nothing left from her family and struggled to build her own house to raise a family, while still hoping to return home one day. My grandpa could never finish his education and major in English… to this day he feels sorry to only have afforded to study until 6th grade because he had to work every day of his life since his family lost literally everything they had because of Israel.

Sorry we were too busy fixing our lives after Israel wrecked it, didn’t have time to make huge political changes in a system we’re never allowed to return to or vote in or affect in any way, in a country where we get strip searched and forced to walk in caged queues and where any of us could get shot on spot with no justice.

So again, super duper sorry! We were busy being displaced and getting over trauma.

Ah yes and Bibi funding Hamas endlessly to lead up to October 7th.

You’re smart but sometimes you ask the weirdest questions.

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Just the vidoes Hamas posts of the IDF getting their ass kicked lol

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But you do that in every post…

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I think a lot of us noticed this and maybe you don’t notice it yourself, but literally when presented with any terrible unspeakable thing the IDF has done, you somehow are able to find an excuse for them… Sometimes you admit they did war crimes, but you never take it to the next level.

Honestly just saying this because I’ve been discussing things with you for days and it’s just something I noticed.

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Do you really understand, or do you just repeat what I’m saying to make it look like you “acknowledge and understand” but then proceed to ignore it anyway?

If the national Palestinian response to a massacre is to come together and do another massacre, there is nothing to negotiate.

???

I think this is it. I’m done with debating you. We had a good long debate on many threads, but I’m seriously done. Don’t take it personally, it’s just tiring. Seeing video footage of people dying at every single place they went to shelter in, and then seeing you day in day out pretend the numbers “aren’t so high” and trusting the IDF blindly… eh.

I think the discussions were worth it, but today is the first time I cried in a while over this conflict, and I honestly do not think (based on our conversations) you would ever be able to show empathy on a true level.

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No one is a human shield because they live where they live. The IDF is bombing schools and shelters and universities. Hard pill to swallow, but yes…

I’m sure many here have tried to explain this to you over and over… It’s not hard, just go and read about what a human shield is.

Goodbye and have a nice life. I do hope you one day understand, though I don’t place any hopes too high on it.

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Today Israel killed yet more civilians at the UNRWA training center and shelter in Khan Younis, and I bet you that you will find one way or the other to make the IDF look like they either did an “oopsie” or that “Hamas was there”, all based on “the IDF said it, the IDF is ‘reliable’, thus it’s probably true enough for me to believe”.

This is from Aljazeera’s timeline today:

“One hour ago, it seems that three shells have been landed inside the … training centre of Khan Younis that belongs to UNRWA,” he said, adding that a “building has been set on fire” and that “there are many casualties”.

Abu Hasna told Al Jazeera that UNRWA hoped to get more information within the next hour, noting that it has been trying to send ambulances to the site in coordination with the Israeli army.

Asked if there had been any warning, he replied: “No.”

“We have not been able to get in and from the compound in the last 48 hours because the Israeli tanks actually [were] very close to the compound,” he said, describing the situation as “very dangerous”.

This is insane to justify. Utterly insane, and yet you will confidently find a way.

Sorry for adding yet another message to this, but yeah. Bye then.

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Just fyi for other people reading, proximity shielding is questionable and unlike classical or basically real human shielding.

Here, some more Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_shield

Authors Neve Gordon and Nicola Perugini, elaborating on their book, Human Shields: A History of People in the Line of Fire, discuss “proximate shields”, humans as shields merely due to proximity to belligerents and assert that this type has become “by far the most prominent type of shield in contemporary discourse”. They say that the proximate shielding accusation has been used by States to cover-up war crimes against civilian populations and that human rights organizations frequently fail to question this charge which they claim is being improperly used to justify civilian deaths.[9]

Sorry, not really replying to you in particular, but it’s hard to let this one slip. Proximity shielding is horse-shit invented by hateful people to justify killing civilians. Israel demonstrates a classic use of this.

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I really wish you would stop saying such illogical things.

There being X number of Hamas members (which I never denied and I doubt anyone here did) doesn’t justify killing tens of civilians. You seem to think Palestinian life is worthless.

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Wouldn’t Hamas just leave the location as well if you “warn” civilians?

Btw when did Israel last perform a roof knock (aka warning you that you will be bombed by bombing your house)

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I will repeat this again, the IDF could kill your mother and you’ll just say there was a tunnel in her head.

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