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jon

@jon@kbin.social

Anyone else dismayed by the limited success and adoption of Odysee (YT alternative) when it comes to Reddit alternatives?

So YouTube has a lot of problems, there's no denying that. Frivolous and selective (not to mention automated) copyright enforcement, bureaucratic termination appeal system, COPPA idiocy, the whole clusterfuck that is monetization, etc?...

Phanatik,

I really liked Odysee until I start to really see it for what it was. A place where right-wing extremists can peddle their bullshit without the threat of being shut down for their vile rhetoric.

What ultimately clued me into this was when I decided to see how Odysee was doing and I noticed on the front page was a featured creator, the one and only Lauren Southern. If you don't know who she is, I don't really know how to describe other than right wing grifter.

I then started to see some other creators and what they were doing. Conspiracy theorists and bigots, lots and lots of bigots.

I didn't like how it was setup either because Odysee rewards groupthink and echo chambers. You have to have credits to post videos and there are some free ways to get these credits but like everything with crypto, you can buy the credits and these credits allow you to post videos.

If people like your videos, they might throw some credits your way but watching the video itself is helpful. So your own videos end up being a financial investment that you need a return on. Time and effort might not see a return so you're encouraged to put together low-effort drivel that you know will make a return. The best way is to make videos that cater to your audience. If your audience is right-wingers, guess what your videos will be about. If you diversify or change your views, your audience won't like that and they won't watch it so you don't get paid.

ffmike,
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In addition to making it easier to find authentic perspectives, we're also improving how we rank results in Search overall, with a greater focus on content with unique expertise and experience. Last year, we launched the helpful content system to show more content made for people, and less content made to attract clicks. In the coming months, we’ll roll out an update to this system that more deeply understands content created from a personal or expert point of view, allowing us to rank more of this useful information on Search.

That seems like just a step in the inevitable AI arms race.

box464, to kbinMeta
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Hey @ernest I wish you the best in the coming days, and other than knowing that, I am just dropping a suggestion that you may or may not have already considered.

I see you're using Cloudflare to manage security checks for kbin.social. They also have a product called Waiting Room that might be helpful as your servers become inundated with new users. Yes, they'd get a queued screen, but your servers would be able to stay above water.

Cloudflare Waiting Room Available at the business level at $250 / mo. No long term contract, so you could just use it for June and drop it. I've seen your BuyMeACoffee so I know you might balk at that price. I've thrown some money in the ring, and hopefully others will too, so you can have the options you need to take some of the stress of your shoulders.

Best of luck! I'm already a solid fan and while the hordes beat at your door, I'll be giving kbin a rest. :)

Some initial impressions and enhancement ideas

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