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m4,

I suppose that when you go to see "traditional" musicians, you expect their performances are real (no backing tracks... you know).

(Disclaimer: I just don't care about them, even dit not knew they were hated)

m4,

I will try Plasma 6 on an Intel core Duo in some time though, exited.

Eh, I used it on an HP Pavilion DV2000 (3 GB RAM) from 2009-2017. With Gentoo. It worked just fine.

Gnome 3, on the other hand...

m4,

Fair points but I still think there's one "desktop" project they host that should not only be supported and get fundings, but be one of their top priorities: Servo.

I think it's crucial not only for the Linux desktop but for the future of the open web. It's has the potential to be a great web renderer engine (it's built atop Rust) and, with good support and development, in the middle-long haul it could be a serious, community-driven alternative to the hegemony of Chrome/Chromium.

After Mozilla ditched it due to the abhorrent administration they had, it went to The Linux Foundation. Afaik there's no more paid people working on it nor working on it full time as it was when it was under Mozilla. With its enormous funding it's insane that Servo has to look out for its own fundings.

m4,

I just can recall tar xvzf but can't even remember what it's supposed to do.

m4,

For the sake of her "they've hacked me" paranoia, my crazy sister made me install OpenBSD on her crappy PC three-four years ago (Intel i3 and a mechanical disk). She stopped using the PC altogether like 6 months after that. It wasn't really bad, everything seemed to work, taking in account the limitations of the hardware. The upgrade procedure irked me, though - mostly, realizing that you have to be reading documentation constantly even for a freaking minor version upgrade.

Still this made me try FreeBSD on my PC, only to realize after a couple days that pkg/pkgsrc are utter shit compared to Portage. Alas Gentoo/BSD is long gone, otherwise I'd love to try it.

m4,

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and though I'm not a fan of GNOME since 2008 (I guess you can check my recent comments...) I concede you can see the (visual) direction they're trying to follow with Adwaita UI and trying to make it cohesive and coherent. Something I wish other DEs did that religiously, like Xfce, Enlightenment, even KDE itself, LXQt or you-name-it.

Still I think the problem with Adwaita is not that it's ugly or something (I'd say more that it is highly opinionated, as it has become the full GNOME experience - either you like it as it is and it fits you like a glove, or you have to use something else because there's no point in between), but a couple things even worse than that - (1) the serious issues it has brought to accessibility, i.e. not being able to tell with full certainty what is a button and what it is not in a toolbar, and (2) doing awful things in usability and UX for the sake of "convergence". Like putting the primary action ("open" or "save" buttons) of dialogs in the exact same spot where you'd find the close button in every else window. Why is that? Yes, because "convergence". On desktop.

All in all the hate towards Adwaita could be that it's allegedly a visible symptom of how GNOME has so much power over GTK that Xfce and co are doing black magic trying to get rid of it for their development. I've just read rumors so don't quote me on this, but I'd believe it can be true.

m4,

I suspect @mox is confused somehow - as far as I know, KDEConnect does not provide any system service interface so systemd can handle it. It all happens in the KDE user session.

I know this because I don't use systemd and have KDEConnect working and autolaunching here.

m4,

I agree - I'd even go as far as to remove other stuff like "power meters", "e-bikes" and "smart indoor training" for stuff that has actually improved the act of cycling since its beginning - like, among those you mentioned, alu tubing, tubeless/TPU, sealed cartridges or indexed shifting. I dunno, maybe even belt drivetrains could be in this list somewhere in the future given they can fix their drawbacks.

m4,

Used a Z1 for +7 years so fell in love with Sony phones and made me got a 1ii (I'd think naming them as 1.0, 1.1... could be a much better convention that this stupidity) when it finally had to say goodbye.

Those four 'cons' points are exactly the same points people complained about them 4 years ago.

They're absolutely great, I'd feel miserable with another phone brand - but It's unbelievable they have done absolutely nothing in this time to assess those points.

m4,

Kinda rich dissing KDE for its "unstability" and putting GNOME as its paradigm, the very DE well known to break every major version.

Sometimes this kind of posts/"content" make me feel like I must be the only person in the world who hasn't had major issues with KDE and it's been absolutely flawless lately, specially since 5 - but I then realize people without issues don't complain. It's the people who have issues with something that make the noise and make it a very big deal (and I'd argue most cases are of the PEBCAK type).

If the need is for something simple and stable I'd shoot for something like Xfce - but putting GNOME as the example of "stability" is nothing but laughable.

m4,

Talk about projection...

m4,

I'm with you - I was kind of happy with GNOME2 back in the day, but the forecoming of what was going to be GNOME3 made me jump out that ship and became a refugee in KDE.

It's a shame the Linux ports of Chrome and Firefox are written in GTK because of the reasons you mentioned. Once I heard some guy at GNOME talking about porting Firefox directly to Wayland - which sounds kind of bollocks for a pedestrian like me - but if it's possible, I hope that they succeed and Firefox can become a toolkit-agnostic web browser.

But at the same time I wonder about projects like Xfce and if they ever decide to move away from GTK, like LXDE did. I mean, a fusion between Xfce and Enlightenment would be awesome.

m4,

I'd wish I was filthy rich to get one.

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