religion has consistently always been the strongest joining force on the planet. look at what they have done, ruled, created, changed. the point of Satanism is to get that same togetherness but for positive changes like secularism, rejecting the current authority. if you can't see the point, that's fine, you don't have to like or accept it, but the point is obvious. i don't see why it even matters that it is a religion, it's officially a religion to put it on a similar ground as other religions so that changes can be made. a simple club called Satanism is not going to do near as much, it won't have any legal basis, no one will listen or care.
the moment you find any joining force that is 1. more powerful than religion and 2. will be taken seriously, do let me know
That was my initial reaction lol, but I am making the pointed effort to be neutral. They probably just don't understand, they seem to think we actually believe in and worship Satan rather than what he represents. I avoid being aggressive so I have the opportunity to be heard, people really don't understand Satanism and if I can enlighten them even a bit on what it really means, I'll try to.
Oh, I didn't know you weren't a Satanist! The Tenets are a basic moral guideline for Satanists but also in general, it's a very short read if you'd like to quickly learn about them. I think you and even many Christians will find these to be very reasonable and good. Unlike other religions, there is no hard and fast rules that you must obey. Just be a good person!
I just wish people took a singular moment to learn what TST Satanism is before jumping down our throats and imagining us as goat sacrificing cultists or something. Satan represents rejection of authoritarianism and tyranny, seeking out knowledge, and justice. Satanists value rationality and basing your beliefs on proven science, fighting for justice, equality, respect, and compassion. For many, it's just politically-active Atheism, as we are nontheistic (we do not believe in the supernatural or any deities). I am an atheist, and a Satanist, TST Satanists are atheist or agnostic. It's often described as "atheism describes what I am not (a believer in a God) and Satanism describes what I am and what I believe and value."
In what way exactly? The idea of Satan that Satanists use for symbolism is FOR humanity, FOR equal rights. Whatever evil demon you see from your bible is not what we look up to. Please explain to me how our Satan is against humanity.
I'm glad you enjoyed the rambles lol. I really appreciate your willingness to learn and try to understand, this is what the world needs more of. As a science loving and rational atheist, this was also always how I lived my life, and didn't realize I could take it a step further and be not only with like-minded people, but help the fight for things I believe in like secularity, women's reproductive rights, and so much more. Not only that, but I like the aesthetics of it haha. Thank you for your time
I have no interest in straying people away from God. I am interested in equality, acceptance, and freedom of religion. You have every right to believe whatever you believe in, that's a value I hold deeply. I haven't insulted or harassed you about your beliefs, you came to MY post to shit on it because you disagreed. Who's the bad guy here?
The symbolic Satan I look up to is about rebelling against authoritarianism. That's how I view him, that's how most Satanists view him. It's YOUR personal issue if you get offended because that authoritarian dictator is your own God in your mind. Very telling.
Be respectful and kind like your God told you that you should be.
You're forgetting it's an actual recognized religion making real changes. Calling it edgy because you're mad that other people have different views than you, like the kind and typical christian you are, won't change that.
Again, the Satan YOU BELIEVE IN is NOT the Satan who's symbolism we admire. I told you exactly what he represents to us, and it's frankly disgusting if you somehow believe that equal human rights is evil. But then again, as your Christias churches love to say, "The Devil was the first to demand equal rights," as if it is a bad thing lmfao
How EXACTLY am I making people pursue immediate pleasure? I said like 10 times that Satanism for me and most Satanists means rebelling against authoritarianism and fighting for secularism, equality, and justice. What part of that means 'pursuing immediate pleasure'?? I'd really like to know.
I don't believe in the garden of eden, Eve, or Adam. The symbolism of that to Satanist means denying blind ignorance, attaining free will, and seeking knowledge.
Yes, I am! I am following Satan in that I will stand up to people like you trying to force your hateful ideology on me and my country, I will fight for equality for ALL people, and I will fight for acceptance and compassion for all human beings.
This person is truly not worth the effort. They have gotten numerous reasonable replies that they reject with the same thoughtless Christian rhetoric. Satanism has been explained to them, now there is no reason to waste our time further.
It is open to interpretation of course, as Lucien says himself, and as the last Tenet embodies, but not for those reasons exactly. They are basic and up for interpretation because Lucien refuses to force strict, exact laws on Satanists that conflict with personal freedom. This isn't Christianity, we have independence and individuality that is encouraged rather than stamped out. Interpretations are encouraged <3
Satanism is essentially politically active atheism, though yes it IS a religion as well. Atheism describes what I am not, a believer in god. Satanism describes what I am, pro-secularism, pro-equality, pro-justice, pro-bodily autonomy, pro-acceptance, pro-science, pro-rationality, pro-kindness. How could a fellow atheist possible disagree with the point Satanists are making here? You put your religious crap in a government building, then you MUST treat all religions equally and put in a Satanic display as well. You make christian after school clubs, we make after school Satan clubs. You strip people of their bodily autonomy based on your book, we fight for it back with our Tenets.
Atheists don’t support religions
Says who? The King of Atheists? There is no authority figure, you can't generalize. Atheists tend to not support religion when it encourages and normalizes violence, hate, and infringes upon the freedoms and rights of others. Satanism does NOT do that, it fights for our rights BACK. It holds a mirror to these evangelical conservatives. No Atheist is going to hate on a religion built on values based on kindness, acceptance, justice, and rationality. That's a job for Christians. Respectfully, take the stick out of your ass and open your mind a bit. Take time to learn before you speak. If you, as an Atheist, truly do not or rather refuse not to see the point in this, then you're already lost.
Full credit goes to: /u/Pamasich for working on it and helping me out with CSS, the below CSS I will mention is fully made by he/her with my feedback, again thank you!...
this is awesome! ive just been using the mag sidebar itself as a banner like in my alternative mag but this is a lot less loud. i love it!
attached pic is what i had tried before at the suggestion of someone who's name i am forgetting now, its cool but invasive and maybe not good for people with vision issues
When did you officially consider yourself a member of TST?
Curious as to how long after learning of TST did it take you to call yourself a Satanist. Immediate? Gradual? Thanks.
Satan Arousing the Rebel Angels, William Blake, 1808 | Tyranny will not be tolerated 🤘🏽
me with my demons
What does Tenet III, “One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone,” mean to you?
This Tenet can have a lot of interpretations and they’re all correct in my eyes....
the terrifying reality of our situation
TST Iowa now has a GoFundMe to sue the guy who trashed their display (www.gofundme.com)
To all moderators: Here is how you can add banner using CSS very easily to your Kbin magazines!
Full credit goes to: /u/Pamasich for working on it and helping me out with CSS, the below CSS I will mention is fully made by he/her with my feedback, again thank you!...