techno156

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What do you think of subreddits protesting with rule changes (e.g., only allowing John Oliver)?

A ton of moderators have been making changes to their subreddits' rules (e.g., only allowing certain posts, going NSFW, loosening rules a ton) to protest without getting kicked out. Do you think this strategy of turning a subreddit into shitposts is effective or not?...

techno156,

It was fun for a while, but like any joke on Reddit, it's also been run into the ground to the point of obnoxiousness, and you kind of see users becoming tired of it in responses to protest updates.

Which I don't really blame them for. From a user standpoint, it does seem a little like a moderator/admin spat that they're just caught in the crossfire of. They're used to their cozy little community, and don't have much of a desire to leave it, or see it shut down. In fairness, there aren't very many good alternatives, either. Kbin and Lemmy are nice and all, but they both much younger, and much more limited compared to Reddit, in addition to having problems like some instances (like Lemmy.ml, or Kbin.Social) crashing under the load of new users, whilst also being less intuitive to begin with, if you're coming from Reddit.

As an alternative, I'm a bit more partial to the /r/politicalhumor method of just giving everyone moderator permissions instead. That way, nothing really changes if the users don't want it to, and it's effectively unmoderated without having to deal with potentially unsavoury content, or making as big of a mess of the sub.

From a Reddit perspective, changing things to John Oliver would get his attention, but at the end of the day, that's still more content for the site itself. Reddit Inc isn't going to care too much about what the content is, as long as they can spin it as "more content", and still put advertising revenue on it.

techno156, (edited )

Given how that's been going, and how that subreddit apparently got caught in the crossfire, it kind of makes you wonder what's going on behind the scenes at Reddit. With a different person revoking it and apologising, it kind of seems like the admins aren't really communicating to each other, and that some are putting out fires that the others are lighting.

EDIT: No Apology, just an explanation.

techno156,

My mistake, it wasn't an apology, just an explanation stating that the subreddit was caught up in some crossfire.

techno156,

and every single domain for self posts is your local kbin instance. It's a little silly, but rather fun in its own way.

techno156,

that's unexpected. I was under the impression that Peertube didn't use ActivityPub, so while it can Federate with other Peertube-like sites, sites running Lemmy would be out of the question.

techno156,

I don't think so. The idea might be nice, but Peertube has neither the audience, nor the monetisation of platforms like YouTube. Moving to peertube just isn't a good business decision for that.

Video hosting is also expensive, especially since they would also have to deal with DMCA claims and all of that. YouTube wasn't really profitable, or even breaking even until rather recently, nearly a full decade after they started. It's not really economical to do video hosting quite like that.

Peertube might be good for casual use, but I also can't see any content creators using it. (Not unlike 2005 YouTube in that sense), and the lack of content creators also means a lack of audience (and through them, content) that might attract more users over. People are more likely to move over to something like Patreon or Twitch instead.

techno156,

World of Go - A puzzle game where you have to play multiple games of Go to complete puzzles, and save the world from the enigmatic World of Go corporation.

techno156,

Lemmy is pretty immature, and probably doesn't suit their needs compared to a forum.

They don't really need a link aggregator, so using Lemmy there wouldn't really make much sense.

The only thing that they might use Lemmy for is the community, but otherwise, it's not a great fit for what they need.

techno156,

At the same time, it might not fit them. Lemmy is a link aggregator, which seems like extra functionality that they don't really need, not when existing forum software will do what they need, while also being more stable/mature.

techno156,

I'm not sure that the Jellyfin community is that big or active enough that that will be much of an issue at all. Looking at their sub, the highest rated posts are under 1k, so number of people active on the sub is probably somewhere between 100k - 1M.

Your average post maybe has about 10 - 20 people interacting with it at most. Expecting thousands seems... optimistic, especially when the forum numbers puts them at under 300 people.

techno156,

I don't see why they wouldn't be.

It wasn't all that long ago that we had waterproof phones, with similar ratings as current phones, whilst also having a replaceable battery.

The Samsung Galaxy S5 had an IP67 rating, for example, despite having a headphone jack, and a replaceable battery/removable back. (it also featured wireless charging, which was surprisingly forward for the time).

techno156,

It'd also go well with modern battery packs, because you can just have a spare battery sitting and charging away in your bag, and can swap it on the fly, without having to have a cable dangling about that might get caught on things, or bent the wrong way.

The only downside with a replaceable battery is that you have to switch the phone off to do it, but that's small potatoes for effectively charging the phone to full in an instant.

techno156,

They already tried, given that the reason that they've held out for so long is because of one of those circumventions.

It's just that the EU is clamping down, and Apple is running out of time on that restriction, hence them moving over to USB-C coincidentally just before the EU would force their hand.

techno156,

Kbin doesn't show it though, so not every software will show the edit tag.

EDIT: Turns out that Kbin doesn't seem to have implemented that yet.

techno156,

Although I'm curious about how they might address the "clickbait" issue of people having a massively upvoted/boosted post, and then changing the post to say something else entirely.

That seems like it might be a problem if people are allowed to edit titles.

techno156,

Sure, but I could see it being used to promote scams and things, too. You get a popular post, and then change it to something else, pointing to a scam, and feign popular support for it.

I remember that being one of the reasons for why both Reddit and Twitter didn't really have post/title editing.

It's better to also have some known method of counteracting any potential issues ahead of time, so we're not blindsided by something like that when it does happen, especially when it's something that could happen now, rather than some far-fetched issue.

techno156,

They, like Twitter, had good reasons for not allowing it, such as the risk of users editing posts after the fact, and the risk of abusing that privilege to scam other users, so on.

But their development did get stale some years back, and they probably know it, given that Reddit started chasing trends and implementing mostly-unwanted features some probably when they started focusing on trying to keep users on the site, and adding things like image/video uploading (which probably did terrible things to their development costs).

techno156,

Of course we have things like The Picard Manoeuvre, but look how much time they spent explaining a second of combat. One of the bigger flaws of new trek is how agile everything is, just a lot of visual noise with random shapes and sizes zooming around like fighter jests with no consideration for inertia. If we just had huge ships flitting around the battlefield like Nightcrawler then you'd lose all sense of relatability and it would just be pure visual noise.

However, we also know that their tech allows their ships to be extremely agile. They have inertial dampeners that let the ship come to a halt almost immediately, and can allow the crew to survive manoeuvres that would kill normal pilots.

It just seems like an odd limitation to treat Federation ships, with all their fancy future propulsion and inertial cancellation/artificial gravity technology, as the same as modern ship combat, where they will slowly float around, shooting at each other from a distance. It might be more relatable, given, but it also ties them down, when their ships should be moving in ways that we should find illogical/impossible, but is entirely feasible, given what their technology can do.

techno156,

It wouldn't be unbelievable to see the Enterprise D run circles round a slow private shuttle, but usually a tractor beam would get the job done and use less energy without said shuttle crashing or something.

It seems to be the other way around, since mass is still a thing, and at least according to Geordi in relics, a small old ship like the Jenolan can still run circles around the Enterprise, probably because of its comparatively smaller size and lighter weight. There's less power that has to be shifted around the warp engine to shove the ship around.

But I could see the tractor beam making sense there. Fuel is expensive, and there's no need to increase wear and tear, and maintenance demands on the engines if you can get away with something like a small movement and a tractor beam instead.

As for inertial dampeners, maybe they need some charge up time and/or predicable movement. We often see people on the bridge getting thrown around from small sub-light nudges.

Predictable movement seems to be where they work best, but I find them needing a charging-up time unlikely, as a small impact would instantly paste the crew, due to the gap leaving the crew subject to those immense forces.

techno156,

I suspect there may also be some kind of tactical doctrine where federation ships are meant to hold their ground , give out some warnings, and take a few punches to the nose before going all out. Since they arent going to dodge a phaser anyway they might as well stand firm as a show of strength. Federation policy is very firm about starting a firefight so it's likely need to have the record be very clear that they arent aggressors.

That does make sense, considering that Federation shields are pretty tough, and the Federation itself probably doesn't want to seem the aggressor by firing first.

For the most part, a Federation ship can just tank a shot with barely a scratch (unless it's an equivalent power), and that might arguably be a better show of force than firing back.

Once CGI became more common in the mid to late 90s I think the opposite trend wound up happening. DS9 has clouds of federation ships that in theory should be sniping at each other from thousands of KM away charging into a dominion cloud. I think voyager wound up usually striking a better balance of old school staredowns with the occasional cool thing like coming out of warp right on top of someone and blasting them and tractoring another ship away. Enterprise also has quite a lot of maneuvering though the nx class is smaller than the other hero ships.

True, I think that many of the complaints are just the differences between the two, although at the same time, with CGI being as cheap as it is, it might also be nice to see them make use of that agility, rather than just having it just be something that only exists in theory.

techno156,

Starships are fast but they really shouldn't be that maneuverable. You do still have to worry about the inertial dampeners. If you're constantly changing directions, the inertial dampeners have to compensate for the acceleration. Keep in mind that starships can accelerate at rates that would flatten anyone into bloody goo without inertial dampeners.

On the other hand, the ship not being able to accelerate that quickly due to the limitations of its inertial dampening system, should also be factored in. There's not much point to saying that a Galaxy class starship can accelerate to Warp 9 from a standstill in a third of a millisecond, if the actual time it needs is about 10 seconds, because it would otherwise overwhelm its inertial dampeners.

Even if they're always using a warp bubble to change the ship's mass, it would not be easy to compensate for quickly accelerating to 0.1c, going down to 0, and then immediately accelerating to 0.1c to another direction.

We are given an example of a ship basically going -0.1c to Warp 9, since the specific example is "from slow reverse impulse to Warp 9 in 0.3 milliseconds". Logically, it should also be able to accelerate to only a portion of that speed, or use the engines to stop just as quickly.

techno156,

I'm on the fence, personally. Being able to post across instances is nice, but Lemmy does also have some minor annoying problems that do get in the way of the experience a bit. Currently, I've run into a bug where some comments and posts don't send for some inexplicable reason, and the issue where Lemmy's web UI simply doesn't send errors messages and fails silently doesn't really help things. Kbin has a nicer UI, but it doesn't have the same kind of formatting options, which can be a little bothersome (Kbin doesn't do spoiler tagging, for example), and the Kbin instance I'm using seems prone to crashing as a result of load from the recent influx of users.

I personally can't wait until they start implementing the ability to move accounts, so I can jump to a different instance, and see if it's just an issue of high server load (My other account is on lemmy.world, which is one of the big ones), or whether there might be a deeper bug at play. Not being locked to the one instance would also be nice.

Personally, I'm rather partial to "Homer's Triple Bypass". The imagery of having Homer's heart in a little corner of a screen, like it's in a little camera/box is pretty unique, and not something that I've seen any other show do, even after all this time. The film is also good, and surprisingly poignant, considering recent climate events and all of that.

techno156,

The lack of tracking is also nice. I've found it to destroy the performance on my older tablet, and Kbin, while also not entirely lightweight, does run surprisingly well for what is basically a modern social network. It's got some minor issues, but it's fairly usable.

techno156,

I'm totally with you. I feel as lemmy develops, we'll start to get more QoL. I've been having the same issue with not being able to post comments on random posts, and I have my own self hosted instance. I think it has something to do with the instance the content is hosted on being overloaded? Not sure how the backend works, truly.

Going from an update, it seems to be due to Lemmy using websockets, which can break if you have multiple tabs open (which I tend to have when working with Lemmy). Recommendation for the time being (until they move off of websockets, which is coming in a future update), is to only have one Lemmy tab/window open, per instance at a time.

What would also be kinda neat, is if I could eventually transfer my instance over to a kbin instance. I quite like the idea of being able to track my thoughts and experiences via microblogging, and I'm not sure if I want to have a seperate mastodon account for that.

They're technically different software, so I don't think you can do a direct transfer, but you can interact with a Mastodon account from Lemmy (although Kbin segments it out a bit more nicely, with Mastodon-like posts being segmented off as "Microblogging", and Lemmy-like posts as "Threads"). It might be easier since you have no posts on your instance, but moving across is likely going to mean that you'll have to subscribe and make comments from the get-go again.

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