UpLateGeek, 2 months ago

@NanoRaptor Dear Tim Apple,
RE: my previous letter about bringing back the black option for the Mac mini, I would also settle for a NeXTstation mini in lieu. Either original hardware or modern internals are acceptable, so long as the exterior is identical to the example attached.
Yours in retro,
UpLateGeek

phranck, 5 months ago

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tommythorn, 5 months ago

@phranck @NanoRaptor Selfmade photoshop, sure. Sometimes NanoRaptor's creations have a uncanny valley quality. Like this one I'd love to see realized.

phranck, 5 months ago

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martin, 5 months ago

@phranck @tommythorn @NanoRaptor sweet! Now I have to figure out how to acceptably run NeXTSTEP on a Pi

phranck, 5 months ago

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tommythorn, 5 months ago

@phranck @martin @NanoRaptor I had Previously running previously and it was a dog on even fast hardware. I have yet to acquire a Pi 5, but I wouldn't even attempt it on anything slower.

I'm a bit puzzled though as vMac (also an m68k core) seems plenty fast. I don't know if there's something about NeXT hardware that's slow to emulate or if Previous just needs some optimizations.

martin, 5 months ago

@tommythorn @phranck @NanoRaptor Previous (http://previous.alternative-system.com) might work. I was able to compile it on my RPi4. Now I have to figure out how to install NeXTSTEP m68k in this thing

phranck, 5 months ago

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martin, 5 months ago

@phranck @tommythorn @NanoRaptor Looks promising so far

phranck, 5 months ago

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martin, 5 months ago

@phranck @tommythorn @NanoRaptor My biggest gripe so far is that it's historically accurate slow. (emulating a 33MHz Motorola 68040)
I got spoilt by NeXTSTEP running in VMware on modern hardware. But I guess there's a price to pay for emulating a different hardware architecture instead of merely virtualizing it

phranck, 5 months ago

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martin, 5 months ago

@phranck @tommythorn @NanoRaptor I‘m still at the second stage installer so far

phranck, 5 months ago

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martin, 5 months ago

@phranck @tommythorn @NanoRaptor sure, once it actually successfully installs 😆
So far I just followed the compile/install instructions from Previous‘es readme and then the instructions from https://youtu.be/dMh0WsLZZVY?si=i_9IXVDkwu4yq0qk

martin, 5 months ago

@phranck @tommythorn @NanoRaptor That's disappointing. The emulator gets laggy at times and the mouse pointer takes seconds to update its position.
★☆☆☆☆
Can't recommend

tommythorn, 5 months ago

@martin @phranck @NanoRaptor Don't say I didn't warn you :) It should be better on a faster machine. The Pi 4 is pretty slow.

tommythorn, 5 months ago

@phranck @NanoRaptor Do! I saw a beautiful scale model (Raspberry Pi case). I have yet to make it, but it needs a monitor to complete the picture.

phranck, 5 months ago

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tommythorn, 5 months ago

@phranck @NanoRaptor Outstanding! I don't know your plans, but this would be a total hit as a Raspberry Pi 5 case with LCD display. I'd totally make that to complement my MacMini

phranck, 5 months ago

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tommythorn, 5 months ago

@phranck @NanoRaptor I'm unfortunately not very gifted in 3D modelling (or even 3D printing) so I bought it from https://www.etsy.com/listing/1369822928/macintosh-mini-cute-3-40-scale-macintosh

phranck, 5 months ago

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tommythorn, 5 months ago

@phranck @NanoRaptor I have it sitting under my iMac, running xscreensaver 24/7. It's very cute, but the tiny 3.5" 640x480 is too small to be more than a toy. I'd like it to be a bit larger so I could use it for something useful (say, perma-display of my calendar).

phranck, 5 months ago

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tommythorn, 5 months ago

@phranck @NanoRaptor I'd buy it

thomasfuchs, 5 months ago

@NanoRaptor I’ll take 5