60% of Lemmy-instances blocks Threads.net

Based on data from fedipact.veganism.social it seems that the majority of instances blocks threads.net. I’m sure there’s Lemmy instances with either approach that have slipped through the cracks as the list is a work in progress.

The percentage of users doesn’t correlate to instances as the biggest instance on the Lemmyverse has roughly 3x the users of the second largest, a NSFW instance, 4x the users of the biggest “niché” instance and 5x the users of what I see as the second largest general purpose instance.

garrett,
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With how bad Lemmy federates across other platforms, even those still federating won’t be seen on Threads lol

BiggestBulb,
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Is kbin.social still going to federate?

Chozo,
Chozo avatar

I hope so. Preemptive defederation is a stupid idea.

davel, (edited )
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

First as tragedy, then as farce kbin.social

1984,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

Someone posted this in another thread and the stats are genuinely misleading here. All the super large instances are federating with Meta, with like 90% of the users.

registrert,

I’d be happy to update it with more correct information if you can find more accurate numbers.

From fedipact.veganism.social the largest instances in order of active users are:

  1. Lemmy.world - Federates
  2. LemmyNSFW.com - Blocks
  3. Lemmy-ml - Blocks
  4. Lemm.ee - Blocks
  5. programming.dev - Federates.
DrRatso,

They are probably mean including mastodon, which is larger and generally federates with threads

BioDriver,
@BioDriver@beehaw.org avatar

OOTL - why is everyone blocking threads.net?

registrert,

It’s owned by Meta, the company that runs Facebook. If you’re still unsure about the situation perhaps this can help out: erinkissane.com/untangling-threads

lemmyvore,

And the crux of the matter:

Less emotionally, I think it’s unwise to assume that an organization that has…

  • demonstrably and continuously made antisocial and sometimes deadly choices on behalf of billions of human beings and
  • allowed its products to be weaponized by covert state-level operations behind multiple genocides and hundreds (thousands? tens of thousands?) of smaller persecutions, all while
  • ducking meaningful oversight,
  • lying about what they do and know, and
  • treating their core extraction machines as fait-accompli inevitabilities that mustn’t be governed except in patently ineffective ways…

…will be a good citizen after adopting a new, interoperable technical structure.

pistachio,

This is the way i see the situation:

Letting meta join the fediverse means they will captivate the general audience and the fediverse will stop growing. Realizing this, it could lead a lot of contributors to the lemmy/mastodon/activitypub projects lose interest, which will slow down development and could eventually lead to the death of the fediverse project.

This is how it goes:

People get accustomed to all the content from Meta/Threads

Meta adds extra features to their website which do not work with other fediverse instances

People switch from lemmy/mastodon to threads or join threads directly and never ever consider joining the real fediverse.

The fediverse project either dies down or remains a niche project forever.

kersploosh,
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It’s interesting that Mastodon instances are trending in the opposite direction of Lemmy instances. Most are staying federated with Threads. I wonder if that’s simply indicative of the strong anti-corporate culture on Lemmy, or if there’s more to it.

Sheeple,
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It’s also because Mastodon has a different structure. While Lemmy tries to mimic Reddits structure with individual communities, Mastodon follows Twitters structure as a larger hub more.

Mastodon, being less “subdivided” therefore can afford federation with such an entity with less risk. Their collective mass being able to offset threads weight more, in comparison to Lemmy where each community has to compete individually with Threads.

Dirk,
@Dirk@lemmy.ml avatar

They’re just stupid.

RandomStickman,
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Maybe that and the creator of Mastodon actively rolling out the red carpet for Zuck

thenexusofprivacy,
@thenexusofprivacy@lemmy.world avatar

Yep. Meta’s convinced him that this is a huge victory for Mastodon – and a good way for him to achieve his goal of getting Mastodon to 100,000,000 users.

lemmyvore,

It’s also interesting that nobody’s asking “how is Threads federating with Mastodon/Lemmy?” All the focus is on the underdog but shouldn’t we pull our heads out of the bubble and give some attention to what the big dog is doing?

callyral,
@callyral@pawb.social avatar

They’re probably using ActivityPub?

almightyGreek,

But why?

takeda,

ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-ne…

Stamau123,

Don’t want a single inch of corpo tendrils winding their way into my new space

iAmTheTot,
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Because the point of federation is the choice, no?

originalucifer,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

'spite' mostly

Alto,
Alto avatar

You haven't been paying attention

originalucifer,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

you have bats in your belfry

Alto,
Alto avatar

Ooh you got any more insults?

originalucifer,
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Nope

Alto,
Alto avatar

If someone's punched you in the face and robbed you blind the last 15 times you invited them over, do you think the 16th time is gonna be different?

spacecowboy,

Meta is poison.

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