spujb

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spujb,

fuck yeah dawg this my shit right here 😼😼🕺

spujb,

FIVE STATES HAVE BANNED RANKED CHOICE VOTING IN THE LAST TWO MONTHS

why the HECK am i just now learning about this??? and whenever i mention the need for strategic voting due to flaws with FPTP someone is always there to chirp at me to “just do RCV” as though i don’t know and no one is trying

so you mean to tell me not only are those people who are trying are failing, AND we are moving backwards?

we’re all going to fucking die, aren’t we

spujb,

i have my disagreements with this community’s mod team but i do appreciate this step.

i fucking hate biden too, but i blocked that account long ago because they clearly were here to troll and do nothing else. anyone who wants to pick up the perceived “torch” and do what they were doing in good faith this time is more than welcome in my book. i really welcome diversity of posts when the person behind it isn’t clearly getting a kick out of the rage they stir up.

spujb,

careful haha i’m with you for most of this thread but this comment dives into an argument that weakens your position i think.

i didn’t block that account because of the number of negative biden posts. personally i blocked them because they kept being abusive to people in the comments in a way that they clearly enjoyed, aka trolling. (i don’t think personally i ever even noticed the biden thing, just that they were mean a lot.) i think it’s enough to ban them for abusing the platform in a way that is contra to the average user having a constructive experience (and then admitting to the means of it)—you don’t really need to stoop to counting Biden’s “slips” as that is just opening yourself for more dissent

cheers ☕️☀️

spujb,

making a self fulfilling prophecy like “if i get banned it’s because of ‘pro genocide users’” and not taking accountability for your own actions is a very trump circa 2019-20 thing to do

heads up lol

spujb,

don’t feed the trolls 😜❤️ this is precisely the response they wanted

spujb,

i agree, jordanlund is opening themselves up for extra scrutiny with this.

spam and displaying signs of getting off on angering users (trolling) is absolutely a valid and nonpartisan reason for a ban. but as soon as the mods start citing actual politics (outside of clear examples of misinfo, which is not in play here) it gets dicey and accusations of bias pile up fast, which is exactly what we are seeing play out right in these comments.

spujb, (edited )

you think redneck homophobes in florida should have universal healthcare?

yeah. doy.

human rights are inherent, not earned.

spujb,

utilitarians try not to debate-bro the fuck out of an incredibly sensitive topic challenge (impossible)

bffr and look up what solidarity is (lemmy.cafe)

Solidarity denotes the unity and mutual support among individuals with shared objectives, crucial in protests for reinforcing collective resolve. Protests are strategically held in high-visibility, disruptive locations to maximize impact and draw public and institutional attention. This disruption compels acknowledgment of the...

spujb,

i agree, sorry, but twas what came to me in a vision

spujb,
spujb, (edited )

i mostly agree but i just want to add that sometimes the “credible threat” can be as simple as public awareness

especially for new or deeply unpopular movements (like pro-palestine), the public getting to see for the first time that there are like-minded souls with the same unpopular yet powerful ideas can be vastly threatening to those in power

spujb,

upvoting because i too want to see more true onion-y posts here even if it means fewer posts overall. the almost onion-y posts tend to not be funny at all, just pure depressing irony, and amass votes in a circle jerk nature, essentially making this another news sub as OP notes.

i get that “truth is stranger than fiction” but that doesn’t mean that the every time the steady progression of the west into fascism is recorded to the media it needs to be posted here. and also it’s excessively us-centric which is both boring for americans and unwelcoming to a global audience.

spujb,

sort of, but i would support the mods if they tried to take action themselves.

the saddest downfall of a community was r/MURDEREDBYWORDS. used to be the funniest shit with the most beautifully crafted comebacks. but then poor moderation let politics start creeping in. the politics was fine and still funny at first. but politics gets engagement, it starts bubbling to the top, and then the quality of content took a nosedive while engagement remained high. now the community is totally derailed to the point that whenever i transitioned from reddit to fedi, i preemptively blocked whatever the parallel sub here was.

hated to see that comedy sub just become “republican bad,” and would hate to see the same happen here.

spujb,

this is a much better wording of your position. i appreciate the clarification because the first time round just lead a lot of folks astray.

spujb,

I think OP is correct about whatever they are trying to express but unfortunately fell flat when putting it into words.

They could have just said “when in debate, steelmanning shows that you have put more than emotion into arriving at your position,” and we all would have agreed (and downvoted because it’s a popular opinion that makes sense lol)

I firmly believe protestors have a right to shut down busy highways, freeways, places of business and higher education.

You identify a problem, you then call the attention of your family, friends and peers and really anyone who will listen to your rantings and ravings. After which if enough people support your claim to give confidence of legitimacy, you voice your concerns to authority. Or governing body or anyone that has been designated for the...

spujb, (edited )

if that was even a minorly significant proportion of any movement i would care

i am never going to tone police the larger movement for the sins of a margin when the intentions involved include saving the lives of children and the future of their planet 👍

as soon as you find yourself in the place to bring your concerns to the leadership of a poorly-acting protest community, i highly recommend it. but doing so broadly and with no target is nothing more than concern trolling.

spujb,

thanks, genuinely lmao. the trolls have discovered they can throw around the word “troll” for fun now i guess 😭

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