gilest.org

tsonfeir, to technology in gilest.org: Make the indie web easier
@tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

self hosted

do not require users to open the Terminal at all

This is not possible. If you self host you have to maintain the server.

0x1C3B00DA,
0x1C3B00DA avatar

It's definitely possible. There are quite a few self hosting solutions that have UIs for installing/managing applications. The author is saying we need to make those better.

tsonfeir,
@tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

So the CMS needs to handle server upgrades too? Security? Firewalls? The list goes on. That’s a lot to ask for any single piece of software, let alone free —and good.

I feel like there is a venn diagram for this already.

pastermil,

I think they can mean shared hosting with cpanel and the likes.

tsonfeir,
@tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

cpanel can only do so much. You still have to set up a database. Sure, you could probably do it all with cpanel, but there’s still maintenance. I think what they need is NOT self hosted. Something serverless.

Ultimately, I think the solution needs to be a new Wordpress competitor that takes advantage of cloud technologies and can be moved around easily if you need to switch hosts. Something that has lots of integration options so you can just choose your own cdn, database host, app host, etc.

But even then, once you want to go outside the box and make something that doesn’t have a template, you’re gonna touch code, or a terminal.

pastermil,

Some CMS don’t need database, doing away with a bunch of markdown files instead.

Not everyone needs a featureful CMS, so something on the level of Wordpress might not be necessary (or even desirable).

In the end, it might not be your cup of tea, but it is still a valid usecase for many people out there.

tsonfeir,
@tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

I agree, there are lots of options if you don’t need something robust. Especially if you’re willing to compromise on design.

dez, to technology in gilest.org: Make the indie web easier
@dez@lemmy.ml avatar

I understand that. Understand and kinda agree. But the problem is people dont care about privacy policies and went ever to the easy ways. Other than that, people dont want learn more about fediverse, nostr or other things, because isnt easy for an average joe. That needs time and mostly people of world dont have time to learn (or dont want too) and continue do/visit same things over and over again…

Tho, I believe the young boys and girls of the present, probably in the future can learn and do/uses new plataforms more easily. However, that needs time to grow

0x1C3B00DA,
0x1C3B00DA avatar

But that's what the author is saying. Make the existing tools easy and polished so that average users who don't care can/will use them. Right now, their only options are the corporate platforms because there's no simple way for them to have their own website or social web presence. If signing up for a CMS with a custom domain were as easy as signing up for Instagram/tiktok/etc, maybe more ppl would do it.

dez,
@dez@lemmy.ml avatar

No doubts about that, yeah. I agree. On the other hand, we need to make famous others free platforms, and this is a difficult job, unfortunately

pastermil, to technology in gilest.org: Make the indie web easier

What about grav?

code,

Im a big fan of grav

pastermil,

It definitely got massive rooms for improvement, but it’s been pleasant to use!

  • All
  • Subscribed
  • Moderated
  • Favorites
  • megavids
  • InstantRegret
  • magazineikmin
  • thenastyranch
  • modclub
  • everett
  • rosin
  • Youngstown
  • slotface
  • ethstaker
  • mdbf
  • kavyap
  • osvaldo12
  • DreamBathrooms
  • anitta
  • Durango
  • ngwrru68w68
  • tester
  • khanakhh
  • love
  • tacticalgear
  • cubers
  • GTA5RPClips
  • Leos
  • normalnudes
  • provamag3
  • cisconetworking
  • JUstTest
  • All magazines