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HootinNHollerin, (edited ) to micromobility in Polaris Just Patented a 4-Wheel Off-Road Electric Scooter

Wheeeewwww weeeeeee boy now Jethrow gon’ take that there shortcut threw them woods down there ta the wal-mart

litchralee, (edited ) to micromobility in REV'IT! and Zero Join Forces For “Electric Motorcycle Riding Gear”

The headline is wonky – as usual. The TLDR is a collab to produce “street and urban-focused aesthetic”, rather than riding gear which is somehow specific to electric motorbikes.

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Why do editors insist on such faulty headlines? Street-inspired gear is already a gaping hole in the market which would already draw clicks and eyeballs for an existing motorbike-oriented audience. I can understand that perhaps electric motorbike riders are more likely to be in/around cities, but it’s a disservice to urban non-electric riders who might be looking for a look that’s not entirely utilitarian. Don’t gild the lily!

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litchralee, to micromobility in Could This Suzuki Electric Scooter Patent Show Us The Future?

The e-Choinori is as cute as a button, and IMO, embodies the efficient minimalism necessary for elegance.

SuperSpruce, to micromobility in BMW's New Scooter Is An Electric Slide Machine

I love the effort of making the electric motorcycles, but $10k is a ridiculous price on this Grom-like bike. You can get a Yamaha MT-09, a ridiculously fast and fun ICE bike, for that price. This scooter should be about half that.

SuperSpruce, to micromobility in Harley-Davidson Should Give Up On Electric Motorcycles

But they already spun off Live wire as a separate company, so they’ve already given up on electric motorcycles.

colourlesspony, to micromobility in Harley-Davidson Should Give Up On Electric Motorcycles
@colourlesspony@pawb.social avatar

Hot take, but I feel when electric is at parity with fossil fuels companies shouldn’t make gas powered vehicles any more. They are not worth the environmental damage. So if they want to be relevant in the future they should continue with electric

litchralee, to micromobility in Harley-Davidson Should Give Up On Electric Motorcycles

For an overview of Harley Davidson’s systemic business issues, FortNine did a fantastic video [YouTube: How Harley Davidson Killed Itself, FortNine, 2020, 14:11] highlighting what went wrong. The condensed answer is a failure to ride the changing waves since the 80s.

That the most redeeming features and lineage of a Harley – which FortNine also covered [YouTube: Why Millions Buy Harley-Davidson Motorcycles, FortNine, 2021, 12:30] – can’t even carry-over to their electric lineup is summed up by the refrain “too little too late”.

yessikg, to micromobility in Harley-Davidson Should Give Up On Electric Motorcycles
@yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Nah, they just need to make them cheaper

FartsWithAnAccent,
@FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io avatar

Harley is all about price gouging people, no way would they do that.

nilloc, (edited )

Or way more obnoxiously loud. I’m pretty sure a large portion on Harley buyers at both deaf, and want everyone around them to hear how deaf they are.

jecht360, to micromobility in It's Official, Maeving’s Electric Motorcycles Are Coming In The US
@jecht360@lemmy.world avatar

To be honest, I do not see a motorcycle that’s limited to 45mph doing well in the US. For people living in cities where the speed might be slower, an ebike may make more sense.

But once you start getting away from city centers traffic gets faster. Standard thoroughfares are 45mph here and people regularly speed.

SineIraEtStudio, to micromobility in It's Official, Maeving’s Electric Motorcycles Are Coming In The US

From the article:

When it comes to performance, the RM1 serves as the brand’s entry-level offering with a hub motor dishing out an approachable 3 kW (about 4 horsepower) of nominal output. The motor peaks out at 4.4 kW, or about 5.8 horsepower, and delivers a top speed of 45 miles per hour. Depending on how you spec it, the RM1 promises anywhere from 40 to 80 miles on a single charge. Quite a lot of range of an urban runabout. At $6,495 USD, it’s quite the expensive runabout, but it makes up for it with its classy styling.

As for the RM1S, it’s packing more than double the power at 7 kW (9.4 ponies) nominal and 10.5 kW (14 horsepower) max, so not only is it quicker, with a top speed of 70 miles per hour, it’s also surely much more fun to ride for folks craving the performance of a small-displacement ICE motorcycle. 80 miles of range on a single charge is also pretty decent, considering its fairly light 293-pound weight figure. For double the performance of the RM1, you’ll have to fork up quite a hefty $8,995 USD for the RM1S.

Maeving’s plans of entering the US have been circulating for nearly a year now, with the brand’s first announcement in March 2023. It was initially eyeing a late-2023 launch, but it seems its entry stateside was delayed by a couple of months.

SuperSpruce, to micromobility in Zero’s “Vehicle Control System” Is The Electric Clutch We’ve Been Waiting For

This sounds cool, but it’s not a real clutch. It just simulates one, not very well.

pineapplelover, to micromobility in Zero’s “Vehicle Control System” Is The Electric Clutch We’ve Been Waiting For

They should be working on more repairability. Last I heard they aren’t right to repair.

nickwitha_k,

That’s a dealbreaker. I saved thousands and learned a lot by doing my own maintenance and repair - everything from tire replacement to rebuilding a clutch (way easier than I expected). It’s an important aspect to motorcycles to me.

sin_free_for_00_days, to micromobility in Zero’s “Vehicle Control System” Is The Electric Clutch We’ve Been Waiting For

Honestly sounds worthless.

Cornpop,

Spoken like someone that has never used a clutch

sin_free_for_00_days,

Me? Did you read the article? I rode motorcycles commuting, as well as traveling when I had the time, for well over a decade.

Anticorp,

Did you read the article? I was thinking it sounded like pointless electrification at first myself, but it’s for use with an electric motorcycle. Electric motorcycles don’t have manual clutches which leave you without much manual control. You can’t slip or feather a clutch when there isn’t one. This honestly sounds pretty cool for anyone that wants an electric motorcycle that handles like a motorcycle instead of a scooter.

sin_free_for_00_days,

There’s no clutch, and it just regulates the power. Sounded like a throttle to me. Like, hey, you could use the clutch to control the engine, or the throttle.

Anticorp,

Nah, it disengages the throttle like a clutch. It basically mimics a clutch for electric bikes that don’t have one.

ililiililiililiilili,

This isn’t a real clutch. Its just a lever that adjusts throttle. It unnecessary and better accomplished by adjusting throttle mapping. I’m all for a real clutch (and 2 or 3 speed transmission) on ebikes once the tech is dialed and decently affordable. This is a half-assed solution to a problem that doesn’t truly exist. Its cheap for them to implement and let’s them pad the margins.

nilloc,

I agree, and since the torque curves are so different between high revving bikes and low revving EV motors, using real clutches will result in tons more maintenance on EVs.

Better mapping and “single pedal” style controls are gonna feel different, but ultimately can give riders more control and probably an advantage in those trials and gymkhana runs too.

sin_free_for_00_days, to micromobility in New Scott Voltage eRide Is Here To Charge Up The Trails

The price for such a fancy electric bicycle? 10,999 euros, or about $11,900 USD.

Jesus Christ. Are normal people able to drop $12 on a fucking bike? I spent less than that on a used Leaf.

FartsWithAnAccent,
@FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world avatar

Not me, I have never owned a bike worth more than $700

crawancon, to micromobility in Trek Goes Urban With The FX+ 2 Commuter Electric Bike

it’s got a lot to like, but 40nm 250w motor was too low for me.

FartsWithAnAccent,
@FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world avatar

Would’ve been better if it was mid drive.

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