Stop the population decline? Is this some nazi-centric great replacement bullshit? Our population and birth rates are fine. What the hell kind of propaganda is this?!
edit: maybe this is just a poorly-choosen domain name.
points out that African American women had it harder during the COVID crisis, the brunt of the crisis’s financial and health impacts, and we need serious policies to address.
I didn’t call it a nazi site. I was referring to the great replacement theory, which is a nazi theory. Clearly the domain name collided with that theory but it isn’t the meaning of the site.
I thought the same and it may be the case still, but skimming the site’s content doesn’t suggest overt rhetoric. There may be that bias in the agenda somewhere but it seems to focus on human rights issues and not the great replacement theory. Unfortunate domain name, I guess. See my other discussions with op on this link.
More evidence is popping up that increased social spending and flexible work arrangements, including remote work, can positively impact fertility rates, as shown in California. Yet, influential figures in California like Elon Musk and other Silicon Valley “pronatalists”, are against these measures and more. Their opposition to remote work, work flexibility, and social spending, coupled with efforts to hamper new infrastructure projects and drive up housing costs. They will not make it easy to do what’s needed.
I mean, at some point in this chart, the admin of the site decided “stoppopulationdecline” was the brand they were going to go with… and yet, I see no point in this chart where the population was declining.
The only folks I hear talking about the decline of population usually refer to the decline fo the white population.
From what I’ve seen, population decline is usually discussed in terms of birth rates, and less so on the current population declining due deaths. If this site is refering to an increase in deaths as population decline, we would think we would see it on the graph.
It just may be an unfortunate name chosen. It certainly raises my BS alarm.
That Chart does not cover a lot of things and phenomena
A lot of right wing lunatics do talk about whites, especially the creepy nerds who run pronatalist.org
people also talk about population decline in reference to Asia and Latin America whose suffering from mass emigration and collapsing fertility , how people are dying younger and younger now in the western world because of austerity and corporate greed, or how young people don’t have homes because of NIMBYs to the town towns are declining, or because of economic strife
It is, however, a graph of the world population. I see your point though.
Not agreeing with pronatalism but it is interesting comparison in domain names. Pronatalist on it’s cover sounds nice, like ‘prolife’. Who isn’t for life?! And births are life! So, hey we found the solution to the population decline, let’s all start making babies, pronatalism! Meanwhile I can quickly google and see that wow, population isn’t declining, just look at the graph! So, as a visitor to the site who doesn’t know anything about it, “pronatalism” “prolife” and “pro-candy” all sound like nice, safe, easy things to get into. Stop population decline sounds like trying to stop a thing that isn’t happening until you understand that it’s a more nuanced view of population - that decline is happening but on the scale we see in the graph you can’t really detect it. (Note:i don’t support prolife or pronatalism agendas, i just wanted to do a thought experiment to show my point).
Fair point. It’s hard to convey that in a domain name. Maybe stoppopulationdecline does that to most people already.
The fact that you need child tax credit to bring kids out of poverty speaks for itself... Wages are not enough for most families so we need plebs to subsididize other plebs while rent seekers keep all of the surplus value.
I ain't against child tax credit but the real issue is that wages are Shiite.
Neat, the article and the study even talks about it
The study calls for a reevaluation of the breadwinner ideology, highlighting the need to understand and support American men’s diverse and often precarious employment experiences.
Hell, the article’s conclusion is about economic instability being a bad thing? >
I was just looking for why this was framed as just pertaining to men rather than men and women. I would like to see a follow up which includes women as well to have some kind of basis on more reasonable expectations for the present and what to demand from our economic systems in the future.
Requiring remote federal workers — emphasis on federal, as in people who work for the United States government writ large — to report in to their home office twice a pay cycle is laughably small-minded. It would seem the undertone of this is two fold:
It keeps workers planted to specific office complexes, which has tangible benefits to the local economy that complex is located within. This means that the politicians responsible for that area can claim credit for jobs where those complexes are located, even if the job responsibilities have little to do with that specific area.
It keeps liberally minded workers from moving out of cities and into exurban or rural communities that typically vote for conservatives. This kind of movement, writ large, has the potential to really shake up national politics, arguably for the better. And we can’t have that now can we?
In both cases, this is a naked attempt to artificially control the federal workforce to benefit the status quo and keep harmful, self-serving politicians in power.
A major problem my friends who work for gov is that Biden been trying to push RTO, even as his own agency heads work from home, so I must have missed the poison pill when I read this article
According to latimes “In his veto message, Newsom said expanding benefits would make the state’s unemployment trust fund “vulnerable to insolvency.” California’s unemployment fund already is projected to be nearly $20 billion in debt”
From what I read that’s largely due to the pandemic and fraud. Business closures and layoffs meant a record number of applications. Since the state couldn’t pay for all of it it had to borrow from the federal government.
Can’t say I blame him for not wanting to add to that debt but at the same time would unemployment benefits for, let’s say a month, really have of added that much to that debt? I haven’t run the math and I definitely can’t tell how many would be eligible but it really does seem like it would be a drop in the bucket
If the growth was sustainable, how does it meet the definition of “overpopulate?” Further, while the world population is on the rise for now, the rate of growth has been slowing since1963:
“Now Timmy, you see… When a mommy airplane and a daddy airplane… uh… really like each other, uh. Well they LOVE each other , you know….uh. Well uh Timmy, you know how the stork… uh…”
Lol, this kind of means-tested garbage won’t accomplish anything for young people on the fence about having kids. At most it’ll let some older people go back to school for free.
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