the splash damage this stuff is causing to the cultural commons is going to be extremely hard to quantify, and undo
I’ve been pondering it for a little while now and even just spitballing on axes of bitrot/vc-exhaustion/etc, we’re going to have all this useless space-filling shit on our collective doorsteps for 5~15y
there appears to be some amount of hope ito things that auto-blacklist sites, etc. but since we don’t have real transclusion (and other source-strong models of hosting/serving), provenance problems are going to remain at a nasty prominence for quite a while too
and the fucking shitheads that push this may never be brought to account -_-
Because it was done with and for money. And the criminals that are supposed to legislate about this can’t wrap their brains about anything other than the money involved with it.
something I don’t really understand is why wikipedia doesn’t have an archiving policy for links. actually I don’t really understand why wikipedia isn’t effectively building a second wayback machine
The archives aren’t automatically added to the reference text in the articles. There’s an IABot you can feed particular articles to that will add it to reference templates. Also, if the IA archiving fails to work, too bad. (e.g. how it can’t even archive Twitter any more.)
It’s already too late for a lot of places, imo. DeviantArt for example is overrun by LLM-generated sludge and no amount of cleanup will undo that; and that site has been a staple of amateur and upcoming artists for decades. The same seems to be happening to Pixiv (which is big in Japan), too. Search engines are also full of generated SEO spam and it’s getting worse, with image search being close to useless unless you do implement some sort of blocklist. Which, for that use case, luckily already exist and aren’t bad (shameless self-plug), but it’s still a manual step you have to take and won’t help my grandma who’s looking for cookie recipes.
The silver lining might be that a growing number of people are willing to try decentralized solutions. I’ve seen more non-techies come over to Lemmy, Mastodon and Misskey as a result, but it’s still sad to see, especially because this will ultimately lead to tons of older content becoming either lost or needles in a shitstack you can’t ever hope to recover.
nice. I’ve got one of the others after I found it a while back, but it looks like yours has a narrower scope?
for places like deviantart… yeah. I don’t really know how you reverse that. containment by clearly marking all the profiles/uploaders (after some way it was detected)? community maintained lists which help defend?
it’s such a fucking mess. and we have no choice but to deal with it, otherwise it will just make things even worse. that’s the thing that really fucks me off about this stuff. all the undue extra work created for many, many people by the inconsiderate actions of far fewer that nonetheless don’t care about their actions.
nice. I’ve got one of the others after I found it a while back, but it looks like yours has a narrower scope?
Yeah, that one actually includes mine and covers more bases. When I started my list, I think they only had a uBlock-based blocker, which was too aggressive for me (and does not work properly on mobile), and there were many small uBlacklist lists which I just combined into one.
I think these days most of them are similar anyway.
Well, I both agree and disagree with that take. Walking away from something has been historically a viable strategy and if enough people do it it can still work today, but it clearly has become much more difficult.
I’m not sure I get the arguments based around better education quality. One of the primary controllable determinants of a child’s educational attainments is parental involvement. Spend a couple of hours with the kid going over their homework and helping them stay a chapter ahead, and I bet the kid would not only be academically successful but also socialized.
Also, a lot of school systems have a fast track learning program for gifted students. You might have to shop around for a school with one if you’re in a low population area, but I think that driving your kid for 45m to a STEM high school probably takes less time than lesson prep and teaching.
And frankly that’s like the best case scenario. Like that myopic view of homeschooling is the best you can have it get with homeschooling. There’s a whole another end of the spectrum it involves straight up Nazis and child abuse and child slavery and just so much depression and sadness.
In nursing school we had to do a Denver II Developmental Screening on a child aged 6-18 months. I wound up assessing the child of one of my parent’s church friends. The couple were young but old enough to be well-educated with decent paying jobs based on the neighborhood. They weren’t fundies by any means, in fact, the father was the primary caregiver. He proudly gave me the child’s health history, including that they had never had a single cold. He attributed their good health to never having been to daycare, which was likely true.
As I progressed through the developmental screening the child was doing great at fine and gross motor, but was lagging significantly in language/social. The dad seemed kind of nervous and I, the first semester nursing student, probably did a shit job of reassuring him. I really saw the gears start turning in his head though as he realized that playing with other children was actually super important developmentally.
Who’s “y’all”? Religious fundamentalists? There are other people who homeschool. I did it for a while and now that my kids are back in school - they wouldn’t be if circumstances allowed - they are way ahead of their peers in terms of understanding the work they’re given.
And “smart enough” implies school is doing something special that children need, but it just isn’t. Kids want to learn. It is a remarkable feat that school is able to make them hate it.
And “cutting your children off from society” implies that school is somehow an integral part of society. It just isn’t. It is the factory-prison model of school that has helped to atomise society and make us dependent on states institutions like school for interpersonal connection. There are other, better ways of doing it.
Well I guess I’m just confused by your comment then. You said schools make kids not like learning and hate schools. You also said your kids were now back in school. So your kids hate school right? If schools are the cause of it then clearly they must have school now. Cuz otherwise if they don’t maybe your thesis is completely wrong.
So you’re saying they don’t hate school and they don’t hate learning? So schools are not a malignant entity that transforms the minds of students into hating school and learning. That’s what I thought. Thanks for clearing that up.
Okay, so you are definitely trying to misunderstand me. I’m not going to expect you to understand at this point, but if you think the sentiment that “school in general can make children hate the process of learning” means “every school always makes every child hate learning”, then maybe you weren’t very well taught how to reason and understand.
My kids are good at learning and they love it, and they’re able to manage through the school’s bullshit well enough that it’s not breaking their love of learning, and I am active in helping them maintain that love. They are among the relatively lucky.
I thought it was like a cliche that kids hate school, though. Have you… not encountered this concept?
It’s, unfortunately, more of a “North Star”, from my perspective. There are small pockets of anarchic activity but, humanity-wide freedom from coercion and hierarchy? That’s a multi-generation project.
Je ne pense pas avoir tout lu avec le mode lecture de firefox mais je pense qu’on pourrait aussi, en étendant la zone géographique, ajouter le fait que les stats qui sortent de temps en temps aux US ou par europol qui placent l’extrême-droite comme première cause.
Un peu hors sujet mais pour l’anecdote le terme de “bloc cyclopéen” qui est utilisé au debut et relié a son utilisation par Lovecraft est juste un terme d’architecture et d’archéologie courant.Il est même possible qu’il revienne à la mode avec le petit retour de la pierre dans la construction auquel on assiste en ce moment. Il y a des projets pour faire des fondations en blocs cyclopéens issus de déchets de carrières.
Du reste je n’ai pas fini le texte mais il a l’air intéressant et complet!
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