fkamiah17,
@fkamiah17@toot.wales avatar

Fucking fucking fucking fuck sake.
There it is.

lebout2canap,
@lebout2canap@mastodon.tedomum.net avatar

@fkamiah17 Real question from a French person who has a hard time understanding English political life: what is the difference between Labor and Tory? (I also think about https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/04/10/labour-infighting-over-trans-issues-reignited-cass-review/)

fkamiah17,
@fkamiah17@toot.wales avatar

@lebout2canap Simple answer: none. They just wear different colour ties.

lebout2canap,
@lebout2canap@mastodon.tedomum.net avatar

@fkamiah17 Ok, but what are the alternatives? because from a distance I only hear about these two parties.

Henrysbridge,
@Henrysbridge@toot.wales avatar

@lebout2canap @fkamiah17

On the progressive left, Greens (UK wide) and in Wales and Scotland Plaid Cymru and SNP respectively. You could also include the Liberal Democrats but they have "some issues". On the right, Reform (the latest incarnation of Farage's ego). Numerous other minor parties and "independent" candidates usually standing on local issues

The UK-wide system is heavily weighted against these.

ChrisWere,
@ChrisWere@toot.wales avatar

@Henrysbridge How do you feel about the SNP ditching their climate targets?

Henrysbridge,
@Henrysbridge@toot.wales avatar

@ChrisWere It's an odd one. The absolute net zero 0f 2045 still stands, I understand, but the cutting by 75% by 2030 is abandoned. Will they keep kicking that can down the road and suddenly discover they have one year left to ditch all carbon?

ChrisWere,
@ChrisWere@toot.wales avatar

@Henrysbridge I gotta be honest, I don't think I've seen close to the political will - from any government - to deal with our carbon targets/climate change. Sadly I'm a little bit doomer on this, although I wish I wasn't.

DigitalTaoist,
@DigitalTaoist@ieji.de avatar

@fkamiah17
It's frankly outrageous that someone who claimed, at one point, to be a 'human rights' lawyer, has such contempt for human rights and the ECHR. for sure 😡

stevelord,
@stevelord@bladerunner.social avatar

@fkamiah17 they can't fucking help themselves because they are themselves

fkamiah17,
@fkamiah17@toot.wales avatar

@stevelord Couldn't have put it better myself.

juanignaciogil,
@juanignaciogil@floe.earth avatar

@fkamiah17 Why the surprise? It should be clear now that he is not willing to change anything at all. He just expects people to vote for him just because he cannot do more damage than the Tories (which is true), and because the first-past-the vote system prevent us to vote for rel change.

fkamiah17,
@fkamiah17@toot.wales avatar

@juanignaciogil Me? I'm not remotely surprised - unlike a couple of the replies I got "what, so you want five more years of Tories?" 🙄
As if that's not what we're getting anyway.

hejsimon,
@hejsimon@mastodon.nu avatar

@fkamiah17 Starmer-Labour is just Tories Lite

fkamiah17,
@fkamiah17@toot.wales avatar

@hejsimon Lite?

SidTheSocialist,

@fkamiah17
I look at that picture and see another grinning Tory twat

fkamiah17,
@fkamiah17@toot.wales avatar

@SidTheSocialist Correct.

raghnallborders, (edited )
@raghnallborders@mastodon.scot avatar

@fkamiah17 blue Tories there's hardly a baw hair between them.

fkamiah17,
@fkamiah17@toot.wales avatar

@raghnallborders I can't see any difference at all, except maybe fewer Red Tories are landed gentry.

mina,
@mina@berlin.social avatar

@fkamiah17

They call them "Tories in red", right?

fkamiah17,
@fkamiah17@toot.wales avatar

@mina The Tory Continuity Party.

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