Steam On Linux Usage Spikes To Nearly 2% In July, Larger Marketshare Than Apple macOS

According to these new numbers from Valve, the Linux customer base is up to 1.96%, or a 0.52% jump over June! That’s a huge jump with normally just moving 0.1% or so in either direction most months… It’s also near an all-time high on a percentage basis going back to the early days of Steam on Linux when it had around a 2% marketshare but at that time the Steam customer size in absolute numbers was much smaller a decade ago than it is now. So if the percentage numbers are accurate, this is likely the largest in absolute terms that the Linux gaming marketshare has ever been.

Data from Valve: …steampowered.com/…/Steam-Hardware-Software-Surve…

brihuang95,
@brihuang95@sopuli.xyz avatar

Thank god for Valve and how awesome they’ve been to Linux users

stappern,

lol you must be young,vvery young. valve is the fucking devil XD

AnonTwo,

Too young for what? I'm older than the company is and I don't recall any devilish controversies.

true_blue,

Are you getting them confused with another company? Valve’s done bad things in the past of course, but they’re still a lot better than most other gaming companies that I know of. I typically put Valve alongside companies like Capcom and Sega as “one of the not bad ones” in terms of malicious practices.

stappern,

No I’m not getting them confused them with anybody. I was there when they slapped their dick on the desk with half life 2 and always online DRM ,I’ve seen the rise of the counterstrike lootboxes and the blind eye valve turned to literal money laundering.

Fuck me they might be the worse ever but they somehow convinced you people they love you or something?

Again either you guys have a short memory or you are very very young.

true_blue,

I understand and that was one of the things I was thinking of when I said “Valve’s done bad things in the past of course”. But when you compare them to many other AAA publishers, I don’t see how Valve is particularly bad. Especially when you start bringing up lootboxes. Unlike many other publishes that go these same bad practices, and at a larger scale at that, value has done some good too, and is generally much more permissive about things like fanworks, and that does a lot to build good will. I don’t see what’s “short memory” about this.

And I’m not even saying that I love valve or anything either, but the devil? Compared to other publishers?

stappern,

Well the thing you are missing is, steam is basically a monopoly and it sucks 30 fucking percent out of every game. Of course they don’t need to do shit anymore compared to ea and Ubisoft. THEY WON already. They de facto own the PC gaming space. But don’t be mistaken nobody has valves power in the PC space. Nobody. And they bought that position with immoral and illegal practices. I’m not gonna like them because it’s been 10 or 20 years. It’s the same company , they just are what EA would like to be. I can’t think of anybody worse honestly in terms of damage.

Xanxia,

Realise this: Before steam most games were pirated. Steam made it really easy to pay for games. And ~20 years later we can still play these games.

stappern,

we can still play all games, no need for steam.

jsnc,

Now we just need an open source steam client and they will be the literal proof that companies can contribute to GNU/Linux and still stay on top.

jackpot,
@jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

lutris?

Cyv_,
Cyv_ avatar

I really hope they release Steam OS for everyone soon. I'd love to install it on my laptop, currently running ChimeraOS which is functionally very similar, but would love to have the stuff like tdp control working in the overlays too without needing third party tools or workarounds.

brihuang95,
@brihuang95@sopuli.xyz avatar

I know that there is that unofficial HoloISO that people use for desktop, it seems to work just fine but i would prefer an official distro release myself

mnemonicmonkeys,

Main downside for that is there’s 0 support for Nvidia GPU’s

ohokthatsgood,

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    master_of_unlocking,
    @master_of_unlocking@beehaw.org avatar

    That’s still the previous version of SteamOS though. The Arch based one that’s on the Steam Deck still hasn’t been released for everyone to use.

    rbits,

    It would be especially cool for the other handhelds out there like the ROG Ally

    crow,

    They’ve done such amazing work for Linux. Linux gaming wouldn’t be the same without them.

    stappern, (edited )

    and also made popular always online DRM,gambling and lootboxes.

    BaroqueInMind,
    BaroqueInMind avatar

    It was going to happen regardless. Better It be Valve dominating the market instead of any other evil corp

    stappern,

    No

    zer0,

    So awesome they run a monopoly on videogames through their useless closed source spyware.

    miss_brainfart,
    @miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml avatar

    Well, their position is what allowed them to do so much for Linux. And their desire to distance themselves from Microsoft, which I’m absolutely on board with.

    stappern,

    doesnt make them any better

    tungah,

    When giants are fighting, we the little ones can benefit, if we’re smart.

    miss_brainfart,
    @miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml avatar

    Of course they did it because it benefits themselves. But it doesn’t only benefit themselves, which is more than you can say about many others.

    zer0,

    The only desire they have for is money, this is the same company that doesn’t mind promoting gambling to kids. Their stupid ass closed source launcher that shouldn’t exist needed to run software is a million light years away from what Linux stand for

    miss_brainfart,
    @miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml avatar

    There are other colours than black and white, you know?

    I fully agree that Valve has their share of issues. There’s things I too don’t like about them, but that doesn’t mean the good they do is worthless.

    zer0,

    Bringing their spyware to linux isn’t anything good

    spyware.neocities.org/articles/steam

    miss_brainfart,
    @miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml avatar

    Did I ever say that I like how much data they collect? No.

    That is absolutely one of the things I greatly dislike.

    Zetta,

    “This program is spyware because it collects huge amounts of user information, including but not limited to your Home Address, Telephone Number, Credit Card Number, and Internet Search History. Steam also profiles your hardware, communications through Steam’s social networking features, and contains a mandatory self-updater. Steam will not work without an internet connection.”

    Seems like they need to collect your address, telephone, and credit card number to process payments? Steam is it’s own internet browser, so the browser data it collects is from itself, not your personal browser.

    You seem paranoid and this website seems to be incorrect or purposely stating things in a misleading way, oh and steam does work without and Internet connection

    zer0,

    Steam shares your informations with third parties. Zetta you don’t seem to mind much so why don’t you tell us your real name, give us your home address, your telephone number and post a log or your search history? Don’t tell me you are paranoid

    lukini, (edited )
    @lukini@beehaw.org avatar

    It’s not useless. None of the launchers are. I greatly appreciate the auto updating of games, earning achievements, among others things. Sure they have issues, but they would have been dethroned years ago if people didn’t like their software compared to companies like Epic.

    timkenhan,

    Hardly surprising, especially with SteamDeck’s popularity. Great news regardless! Steam is really making a difference here.

    PersnickityPenguin,

    I would fully switch to linux - I have done some dabbling with it, including setting up a media PC w/ steam on it - but I cannot run any of my business or productivity apps.

    Specifically, Autocad, Revit, and VR software do not work. So wahwah

    desconectado,

    On the same boat, I would gladly change, but most of my collaborators still use software you can only use on windows, I could use VMs or emulators, but it usually breaks my workflow anyway.

    Swarfega,

    I’m one of these statistics. I got a cheap SSD on Prime Day and installed Pop!_OS. The first thing I did was install Steam.

    I still boot to Windows the majority of my time because of other apps or games that I need but I’m trying to get away from Windows.

    circuitfarmer,
    @circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    I’ve never looked back to Windows since switching my gaming rig to Linux about a year ago.

    One of my favorite things is when a game launches with a DX12 option that says “Windows 10/11 only”. Au contraire, game option. You’re about to run on a penguin.

    featherfurl,

    NixOS on steam deck is currently my daily driver because it’s dedicated, portable linux hardware with better than iGPU performance I can actually afford. Having said that I’m only about a week in, but adding Jovian NixOS modules to my previous configs has been enough to make it a pretty solid experience so far. Amazing portable gaming is a nice bonus.

    chockblock,

    How does NixOS compare to SteamOS on the Deck? Does it work just as smooth? Also, is EMUDeck compatible with NixOS?

    XEAL,

    I’m doing my part, I have installed Steam on two new Ubuntu installs recently, lol.

    littlecolt,

    Yes! Not only do I have a Deck, but I’ve switched my main PC to Linux. Sick of Micro$oft’s shit!

    grimaferve,

    I did my first Linux Steam hardware survey yesterday so I'm doing my part!

    masterairmagic,

    man, I missed it! Is it still going on?

    grimaferve,

    Valve claims it's monthly but my previous survey was October last year so I doubt that. I don't believe it was related to the article in the OP. They seem to just randomly pop up after an update. A surprise to be sure but a welcome one.

    Kaped,

    Let s fucking go

    MaxPower,

    Linux FTW. Number 1 on servers, now number 2 on Steam! Watch out, Microsoft /s

    cipherlab,

    I’m sure 99% of it is Steam Decks

    ezahn,

    @cipherlab @pnutzh4x0r Nonetheless, it's quite the achievement. That's exactly what Linux needs: visible, tangible and reputable hardware that's ostensibly better than the competition. It's great to be flexible, but you still need to have a face.

    altima_neo, (edited )
    @altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

    Due to the steam summer sale perhaps?

    snowbell,
    @snowbell@beehaw.org avatar

    This is what finally got me to buy one.

    MaxPower,

    The post says ~42 % is Steam OS

    Scout339,

    Actually its only 44% steam decks!

    ReakDuck,

    I found way to many Linux gamers in the wild. So no, they are not Steam Decks.

    shirro,

    Less than that though they are a large slice.

    Most Windows and practically all Mac instances are preinstalled by the hardware vendor. There are very few companies selling preinstalled Linux gaming machines other than the Steam Deck. I expect they might be a majority of new Linux steam users for some time as they are by far the lowest entry cost in terms of hardware, prerequisite technical knowledge and time.

    Many gamers who dabble with Linux are still taking the path of least resistance and dual booting for gaming. Linux first people like myself will continue to grow in number but as long as it is a DIY thing realistically we will always be a few percent at best as most people want a simpler out of box gaming experience.

    Pollux,

    It’s awesome that Linux is becoming almost a mainstream desktop operating system. The year of Linux is here just another year or 2 and gaming on Linux will be near perfect. But sadly we will not able to play any kernel anticheat games like valorant but who gives a fuck about that game anyways lmao

    CrabAndBroom,

    Yeah I’m fine with that personally. If a game wants that level of fuckery I’d rather just go without it anyway tbh.

    Pollux,

    Exactly :)

    brihuang95,
    @brihuang95@sopuli.xyz avatar

    another barrier is for nvidia-based GPUs, it just seems like gaming on Linux with AMD works a lot smoother.

    littlecolt,

    Pop OS does wonderfully with Nvidia nowadays. Check it out!

    Pollux,

    Yes this is true as lots of Nvidia users have told me otherwise, when I used a rtx 2060 on Linux for about 6 months before I switched to a amd rx 6700 and it’s been the best experience I have ever had in gaming on a PC in general honestly. Nvidia “works” in terms of installing the driver, playing games do “work” but the big issue is vulkan shader loader on steam and then third party games that run on lutris, bottles that require specific environment variables for the game to not stutter or to switch to dxvk async as a instant fix for loading shaders but async is being kicked out because it’s a hack and includes a lot of patches the devs don’t like.

    You can turn off the vulkan loader as Nvidia has a way of loading shaders rather quickly, but it does it in the most stupid way possible that example in apex I had to wait 5minutes in the lobby to load all of my shaders so that the game wouldn’t stutter when I entered a game. It pinned all of my cpu cores to 100% to load it instead of the GPU doing it which is so weird, this is supposedly already fixed in the “vulkan beta Nvidia driver” but who the normal user is gonna fuck around in the terminal to install a beta version of a driver that could easily break something.

    While on amd all you need for gaming is mesa 23.1 or above so that you have gpl/graphics pipeline library, and then you can disable the pre caching vulkan loader, then that’s it, everything else is smooth sailing already as drivers are already preinstalled, Wayland is more supported on amd because of its open source nature, and games run amazing on it. Best investment you could make if you want to fully switch to Linux as your main operating system ngl.

    The only upside to Nvidia is that your new gpu’s will mostly work out of the box while the newest amd cards will need to mature for a bit before buying but if you run something like arch and you use mesa git + the newest kernel patches then the experience will get better and better everyday as the drivers mature for those cards

    Bulletdust,

    Nvidia here under Linux, been running Nvidia hardware/drivers for about five years now with little in the way of problems. The latest hardware is supported on release, and my performance while gaming is fantastic.

    Even Wayland support is maturing under Linux running Nvidia hardware/drivers, to the point whereby it’s mostly as usable as Wayland gets now.

    At least you have the option of running the latest Nvidia hardware under Linux, it seems dedicated GPU support under MacOS is dwindling by the month.

    littlecolt,

    Does kernel anti cheat really help anything, though? I’m curious about it. Like, how much worse would cheating be without it? I play Apex on Linux. It runs EAC and yes, there are some cheaters but it’s not that bad from what I can tell.

    stappern,

    it doesnt

    Pollux,

    Well it can stop users from plugging other devices into their computer when they have valorant launched, so things like hacks on a USB wouldn’t be possible, and that it can see all of your usb devices on your pc, and then it can see what’s being opened on your computer, it basically can see everything your doing which is a huge privacy concern. that’s why people had been talking about that someone could easily use the rootkit to do some malicious shit with it, while on eac on Linux it can only see our home partition lol, but on windows it can see a bit more of your file system as permissions aren’t rlly a thing on windows Sept the admin stuff. Apex handles cheaters kinda well these days so it’s more about reporting and banning those people. Anticheats are only supposed to stop the user from loading cheats but if it fails to do that which it usually does then it’s up to the support team of that game to ban them

    Freeman, (edited )

    Yes, I’ll switch from Windows to Linux but at the moment I dont trust myself to be able to use Linux as I cannot code and havent any deep knowledge about cpmputers. So I hope that in the next few years there will be the compatibility and ease of use on Linux like there is on windows now.

    Edit: ok, thanks everyone.

    I am very pro open source and very pro linux (obiously)

    With “coding” i ment doing stuff with the terminal. I am mostly concerned with stuff not working when it should and then that the fix is only doable in the terminal and requires trial and error and knowledge and so on…

    I was mostly discouraged by the LTT videos about Linux as a daily driver, haming and working on linux and so on. And they made it look that you have problems significantly more frequent than on a windows machine.

    And yes, i need to use full office suite, most other programms can be FOSS or linux alternatives tho.

    throwsbooks,

    I don’t think you need to wait years for user friendly Linux tbh! I recommend checking out Linux Mint. It’s basically designed for people used to Windows and handles the technical stuff for you.

    You can do almost everything through the GUI rather than the command line, so for things like updates, it’ll show you a little notification in the corner by the clock like you’re used to, you open up the software manager, and click the update button.

    And most software nowadays can either be downloaded through an app store like interface, or by downloading an executable file from a website.

    And if you’ve ever used a mac, there’s a time machine equivalent built in (timeshift). So you can set up an automatic backup daily/weekly/etc and if you mess up something, in most cases you can revert back to a point when it wasn’t messed up.

    I say give it a shot, you can always go back if it’s not for you! But usability has improved so much in the last few years.

    datendefekt,
    @datendefekt@lemmy.ml avatar

    My daughter can’t code (apart from dabbling a bit in Scratch) and she can use Fedora on her laptop just fine.

    Pollux, (edited )

    I don’t even know how to code LOL I know the bare minimum of installing packages either through the gui or through the terminal which isn’t coding, just simple commands for installing packages that the gui would do for you

    You have gui stores like gnome software, kde plasma discover gui store that let you install application super easy with one click install buttons that’s it

    Example installing discord on Ubuntu through terminal Sudo means root, apt the package manager that’s gonna install the package for us, install telling apt to install said application/software, discord the application. That’s it, you type y and it will install said application.

    And I even started a YouTube channel called Linux benchmarks with plenty of simple tutorials of how to setup things like proton and learning those things in apps like lutris or bottles or heroic games launcher which are all gui applications for setting up games.

    Editing I use kdenlive another gui application, gimp another gui application, updating it through the store as well or you can do the terminal either one they do the exact same thing.

    Here’s my thoughts about using Linux on both a Nvidia setup and now a full amd setup for one year :)

    youtu.be/55_TtnN7dnk

    raptir,

    You don’t need to know how to code certainly. If you choose a “fire and forget” distro like Ubuntu, Linux Mint, etc… the only thing you would really run into any challenge with is running Windows software. Games are pretty well handled by Steam/Proton at this point, but other Windows software like, say, Word or the Adobe suite can be a challenge. If you’re okay with using alternatives (libreoffice, darktable, gimp) you’ll be fine.

    nottheengineer,

    The LTT videos assume that you are unwilling to spend a bit of time learning your OS. If you can accept that it won’t be a perfectly smooth experience from the start and that you’ll have to put in a bit of effort to make it do what you want, there’s no reason to not try it out.

    I recently went for it and left windows for dual-booting, but the only time that I had to boot it was after finding out that if you mount an NTFS partition in linux without first disabling fast boot on windows, it’ll get broken sooner or later.

    Now I’m at a point where troubleshooting stuff on linux is far easier than on windows. Because it’s modular and community-driven, you can always get to the root of a given problem with some googling or asking on one of the many great forums. Windows on the other hand is a proprietary monolith and if something stops working, you can only fiddle around with settings or hope for microsoft to fix it.

    Getting there took me about 50-70 hours of troubleshooting total spread across a few years. I wasted a lot more than that trying to troubleshoot windows.

    Freeman,

    I mean I would accept to get into Linux for the start but I am afraid that my OS will be “a ongoing project” so to say.

    nottheengineer,

    I found that it’s different from windows, but not really more work. I get annoyed by small things easily, so finding out you have to tweak the registry to set some things in windows has just been frustrating while I can just customize the little things how I like them on linux by changing a config file or even find that there’s a good GUI for it, like with the task bar for example.

    If you’re fine with ignoring the little annoyances on windows, you won’t have issues on Linux either.

    kyub,

    There will not be the equivalent compatibility at first. But there will be enough compatibility for most users to not care about it anymore. The equivalent compatibility will only exist once literally every hardware and software manufacturer supports Linux on their own as first-class citizen. And they will only do that once Linux has signifikant desktop marketshare. But it doesn't matter as long as most stuff still runs no matter what. Which is currently the case. And it's also gotten easy.

    Hexarei,
    @Hexarei@programming.dev avatar

    You definitely don’t need to know anything about writing code to use Linux! The closest thing to it is the terminal, which is something you basically never need to use on a standard setup like Pop!OS or Mint. I’ve gotten plenty of my friends using Linux, many of them have never even had to look at a terminal.

    Mandy,

    Damn this zer0 really has it out for people enjoying things today I hope whoever pissed into your chereos stops soon

    Rhabuko,

    Free software fundamentalist that probably worships Stallman too.

    Mandy,

    I feel like such an outsider cause for me proton is such a piece of shit that it barely if ever works even if the title is rated platinum

    No matter the district either

    BearJCC,

    I have yet to have any issues with the 50ish games I have played on Proton.

    Mandy,

    Im genuinely happy for you to have things actually work out

    I wish it would be the same for me

    I even had shit break after restarting it 5 minutes after closing it

    Zetta,

    That’s so odd, maybe there is an issue with your specific distribution.

    Mandy,

    As mentioned in another comment I had the same problem over 3 wildly different distros I also never fiddle with any system files or anything

    Kaped,

    are you using nvidia like a removed?

    Mandy,

    Yes? I have a 1050ti

    What else am I supposed to use? Nouveau? Like some sort of redacted? ???

    brihuang95,
    @brihuang95@sopuli.xyz avatar

    lol that’s the funny thing about linux right? and with all the various distros and setups it can be rather hard to diagnose what the issue is.

    Mandy,

    The inability to use proton correctly is a constant over 3 wildly different distros

    phar,

    I am not sure how you can mess up using proton but somehow this seems like user error. Every distro I have tried it on, with multiple DEs…it just works.

    Mandy,

    The classic Linux moment, when it doesn’t work, blame the user

    Hexarei,
    @Hexarei@programming.dev avatar

    Most of the time, it’s the user. And when it isn’t, it’s the user

    Mandy,

    fair enough lmao

    phar,

    Seeing as you are the only person who really has this issue, it’s either your hardware or it’s you. If you try it on other hardware and it still happens, it’s you.

    Mandy,

    oh yeah its totally me when this happens on a stock distro, it cant possible be that the software isnt the problem, it must always be the user even if its what you claim a rare problem

    phar,

    Umm…yes? It works for the rest of us on different distros across all different machines. So either it’s your machine, or you are doing something wrong. That’s it, there really isn’t much else to it.

    scorpiosrevenge,

    Try XanMod kernel and ProtonGE - I’ve had great performance and stability and been using those for couple years now with steam Linux gaming

    Mandy,

    If it doesn’t work on stock Idk if I trust a random what I assume is a kernel mod

    Protonge was only marginably better and it only worked like that through lutris

    lemillionsocks,
    @lemillionsocks@beehaw.org avatar

    I wonder if it’s a software or hardware issue on your end that might be causing it.

    Been using proton since it started and it’s definitely not always as seamless and requires tweaking or going to protondb and checking bug reports, changing your proton version, and etc, but generally it has worked with me on multiple iterations of hardware.

    Mandy,

    I wish I knew man, protondb tweaks never once helped me either

    I never noticed anything else be as freaky as proton

    scorpiosrevenge,

    What OS/distro are you using?

    Mandy,

    Currently im on endeavouros But had the same problem on mint and solus

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