Steam VR works fine, but you need a headset that supports Steam VR without needing other software. The main options are the HTC Vive and the Valve Index.
Good point! I was aware of ALVR, specifically that it supported the Quest, but I wasn’t sure how stable it was. I didn’t know it supported those other headsets, that’s cool!
Still… There are anticheats that allow Linux, like EAC, Hyperion and many others… If they choose one that does not allow Linux, or choose one that allow Linux but block it, it’s a dev issue
Virtually no anticheat worked on Linux just a few years ago except maybe Valve and Blizzard in-house solutions. Games that are out and already committed to a specific anticheat can’t do much but to wait, so it is not really on them. Changing the anticheat solution mid-way on a released game would piss off so many people you can’t imagine. On a brand new game though, I would agree that this should be considered.
Indeed. What sucks is that it is off by default, I figure most small-time devs simply need to be told it exists. I definitely wouldn’t excuse the big players though, most AAA game companies can get fucked for all I care.
ngl i consistently have a better experience running games through wine than using their native versions. linux ports are often completely dysfunctional and it sucks ass
Well, you can’t blame developers to not cater to their 1% player base. Especially since that group usually have the most problems and requires more development time.
Market share and earnings are not everything. We understand why game developers could not want to port their stuff, but the point is not to blame operating system that has nothing to do with it and focus trying to convience developers to support user-friendly systems at least out of principle even if it is not the most revenue generating decition.
I don’t remember exactly who, but there was one game developer who was all praises for that 1%. The Linux users were the most prolific testers who sent back detailed bug reports with ways to recreate the bug, logs and often core dumps even. That 1% helped the devs, as well as the other 99%.
If a game cant be run on linux, thats usually intentional. Microshit at least gives discounts to the developer if the game runs only on their shit. Also m$ have some of components that ultimately lock things to wincrap, for example d3d is meant to do this. Microsoft is a cancerm just like google become one
Funnily enough, Ballmer backtracked on his “Linux is a cancer” when he saw Satya Nadella (current M$ CEO), make M$ (and its shareholders, which includes Ballmer), a lot of money off Linux through Cloud, or more specifically, Azure.
I think microsoft is the cancer (and google), not just windows alone. Teams is also like a crime against human kind, just like office, and the xbox publisher octopus.
Paladins is a pain for this. Game runs fine on proton, and all it needs is some work with EAC to enable linux on multiplayer but despite all the requests they’ve yet to bother.
At this point I wouldn’t be suprised that some dev companies are taking Microsoft kickback money under the table. There is really no excuse for a game not to work on Linux natively on 2023.
@Rooty@Uluganda you mean apart from the extra work it takes for devs to give support to the platform, a platform where they will get less than 1% of sales.
what kind of support mate? jesus I hate this argument. As if publisher do anything out of the ordinary to provide linux compatbility. All the work was done by valve already or is still being done.
Look at no man’s sky and how they in the past have had to patch their game for Linux via proton. It happens, proton is not perfect and it never will be
Steam decks and other deck PCs are rapidly gaining ground, not to mention that steam runs natively on Linux. The “less than 1% marketshare” meme is 20 years old at this point and no longer relevant. Once again, there is no excuse.
It’s still less than 5%, so unfortunately it’s still at a level they can ignore.
We need more gaming devices that ship with Linux out of the box, like the Steam Deck. Market share is not going to go up only with PC gamers choosing Linux over Windows.
@Rooty even 3 - 5% is not worth it for a lot of devs for the amount of time it would take. you must also consider every update also needing the same care taken to it. financially small devs don't have the resources and big devs know it would eat into their profits
I don’t think it neccesarily takes much to make a game compatible, from what I hear at this point it basically just consists of not doing really weird things with your game and not choosing an anti cheat that doesn’t work
By the fact basically every indie game I’ve ever tried has worked flawlessly in proton I’d say there’s no excuse for new triple a games not to
@flashgnash yeah they work in proton... that's not native linux. porting a windows game to native Linux is more trouble that its worth for most devs hence projects like proton
I guess so but I honestly think proton is the way forward for Linux gaming, as far as I can tell they run just as well if not better under proton than on windows
Well, the thing is that developers need to go out of their way to intentionally break Linux support. The community does 99% of the work in most cases. Launchers, along with anti-cheat are the most egregious.
Anti-cheat I can semi-understand, the developer has to do some work, but popular anti-cheats support Linux no problem.
Launchers, however are 100% useless other than Steam itself, I wish Valve would ban third-party launchers. I wouldn’t be surprised though if some publishers would pull their games from Steam if Valve outright banned them.
I mean, it is not a fault on Linux’s end. We have all the tools we need in the form of wine and dxvk, it’s the game which fails to work due to some obscure dependency or a mandatory rootkit. One great example is genshin- the game itself works flawlessly, but it has a rootkit which obviously does not work on Linux and you have to patch it out.
I’m blaming companies making a windows and linux version of a software while the linux version is wastly inferior, full of bugs and unstable. I do love the OS but the software experience sometimes ruining it.
Yeah as long as proton works fine I’d rather use that over a buggy port. Usually works better for the devs too since they can target one API and binary and just debug whatever makes proton poop itself afterwards.
I blame Linux distros for being too complicated and unintuitive for 95% of the population, which in turn gives it a negligible market share from a game development perspective.
seriously though the installation experience on kde/gnome is so much nicer than windows, if the hardware is compatible and the tpm/secure boot bullshit is turned off
To be fair, game programming is very often hot garbage. Most things I run do not respond for a while at startup. How difficult can it be to decouple your threads?
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