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  • possiblylinux127,
    possiblylinux127,
    lemmylem,
    ReginaPhalange,

    Libreboot? Coreboot? UEFI?

    caustictrap,

    Os everyone here on graphene OS or other linux privacy phones? Or you guys only draw the line when it comes to desktop OS?

    possiblylinux127,

    I’m on Lineage OS

    I love my phone and I’m planning on keeping it until it dies. Lineage OS allows me to have the latest version of Android that is patched.

    lens17,

    I’m having some conflicts when it comes to lineage and similar OS. While, yes, they might be better from a privacy perspective (if you put the effort into it) and allow you to keep your phone longer, I simply do not trust that the OS can’t be tampered with. For many devices, there is a single person maintaining that version of lineage. Who guarantees that they don’t pipe important information to some server in a more or less clever way? This should not be misunderstood as an argument for closed source. The problems I’m having with this type of open source is that the code differs from device to device, it is (at least as far as I know) possible to change enough of the code to become malicious while adapting it to another device, I don’t have the capacities to make sure that the code is actually safe, and they are not regularly audited. Hell, in some cases they are even provided without checksums. So you trade the spying eyes against a possible barn door of insecurities.

    Therefore, I much rather use audited ROMs like Graphene or Calyx, but they (mostly) require a device from the company that I am trying to avoid. It’s such a weird situation…

    hangonasecond,

    Re: your last paragraph -

    Think of it this way. Google pulls in 300 billion USD a year and 80% of that is advertising revenue, not leaving a whole lot of the pie for Pixel phones once you take out subscriptions, Chromebooks, GCP, etc etc.

    Sure, they’re probably making some money on every pixel sale but the point of them making mobile phones is to support their advertising business.

    I’m not a Graphene user, but that’s the way I see it. At the end of the day if you get the phone secondhand you’re not giving them any money at all.

    Evkob,
    @Evkob@lemmy.ca avatar

    I got a Pixel specifically to install GrapheneOS on it after going on a huge FOSS/privacy kick last year (coincidentally around the same time I joined Lemmy…)

    KaninchenSpeed,

    I got a Fairphone so I could run calyxos. The only thing missing for me is the option to stop charging at 80%.

    EddyBot,

    Charging control (80% charge/scheduled full charge if wanted) is available on my Pixel with CalyxOS
    is it not available on the Fairphones?

    KaninchenSpeed,

    They haven’t implemented the driver for the Fairphone 5 yet. I think it works on the Fairphone 4.

    Kiwi_fruit,
    @Kiwi_fruit@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Every day I slowly become more of a paranoid Schizophrenic

    possiblylinux127,

    You need to these days

    snek,
    @snek@lemmy.world avatar

    I vote for adding the tails os logo too

    Canadian_Cabinet,

    Linux is already there?

    snek,
    @snek@lemmy.world avatar

    I meant tails as one tool people use specifically for added security.

    Juice88,
    @Juice88@lemmy.world avatar

    SHOOOOOOT! LMAO

    supangle,

    i already fear that there will be car companies on the left. teslas can see through the cameras

    Varyag,
    @Varyag@lemm.ee avatar

    Will? Will? Think again. Cars are already the worst when it comes to data collection and privacy. Not just Teslas, anything with Android Auto or similar. They can literally tell if you’re banging someone in the back seat. BMW made people pay a yearly subscription to access heated seats. I hate the modern automotive market.

    supangle,

    yeah i know. i fear that they are gonna harvest data even more and sell them to 3rd parties

    illectrility,
    supangle,

    i read it already. i recommend watching techlore’s tesla privacy video. i’m thinking about buying an somewhat drivable vintage car with no tech outside running the car itself. my recent fav is 1988 964 911

    meekah,
    @meekah@lemmy.world avatar

    1988 964 911

    That’s a classic. You would be lucky to get one for 50k rn, and I’m sure it won’t get any cheaper in the future.

    cygnus,
    @cygnus@lemmy.ca avatar

    Haha yeah sounds like that person hasn’t checked Porsche prices in the last 5 years

    supangle,

    i didn’t say that it’s cheap? it’s my favorite one inside that cluster, and why do you recon that i wouldn’t be able to afford one, just like that?

    cygnus,
    @cygnus@lemmy.ca avatar

    It’s just that if “somewhat drivable vintage car” is your criterion, an aircooled Porsche is going to be way in the upper percentiles of what you could get. People who are willing to pay the ridiculous current prices usually do so because they aren’t cross-shopping with anything else. A somewhat drivable vintage car could also be an NA Miata for 1/6th the price.

    supangle,

    yes i know but i don’t care about the cost when thinking about my fav one the one in my dreams

    possiblylinux127,

    Just be ready to do maintenance

    onlinepersona,

    Are… are we the same person? Steam is my only exception.

    Anti Commercial-AI license

    RandomVideos,

    Im pretty sure almost all of lemmy is like this

    possiblylinux127,

    Steam is bad for your freedom. However I’m sure that you already know that.

    I will point out that your “Anti Commercial AI license” is hopefully legally invalid as if it were valid it would mean that people could license comments under whatever license including putting arbitrary restrictions that could be enforced by suing. I get what your trying to do but there is probably a better way.

    Chadus_Maximus,

    How is it bad if everything else is much worse? That’s like saying using planes is dangerous for traveling.

    bitfucker,

    Well, depends on the platform no? Terms of service usually include the term for user generated content. For big companies, those terms usually include you forfeit or give the company the right to use it however they please. When you use their service the moment you register, you also agree to that term. But yeah, I don’t know how it will work on a federated system.

    A_N_O_N,

    Bruh not VLC ?

    beeng,

    MPV ftw.

    possiblylinux127,

    VLC is better

    beeng,

    Default key binds are better for me on MPV, but install vlc for all others,family friends parents etc.

    renzev,

    I also have both. VLC’s UI is good for some strange one-off tasks like playing CD’s and stuff. Sure, mpv can do it too, but I would rather push some buttons in a UI than dive head-first into a manual to figure out how to do it with mpv.

    afk_strats, (edited )

    Edit: thank you for those in reply who helped to “annotate” this meme

    The software pictured are:

    1. graphene os
    2. new pipe
    3. Signal
    4. MPV
    5. libre wolf
    6. KeepassXC
    7. Aurora Store
    8. fdroid
    9. Free Tube

    Bonus. tux

    atmur,

    MPV (Video player), Aurora Store (Google Play frontend). The last one looks familiar but I can’t quite place it.

    hungover_pilot,

    The blue chat bubble is signal

    afk_strats,

    Thank you. Missed that one. My most used app

    afk_strats,

    Thank you. Updated and will look into MPV. I’ve been deep into team VLC

    atmur,

    Ah, just remembered it. Last unknown one is FreeTube.

    afk_strats,

    Thank you! I really need to check this out

    Rez,
    @Rez@sh.itjust.works avatar
    1. tux

    Tux is not software, it’s a software mascot :D

    afk_strats,

    I specifically didn’t list Tux as “Linux” because I thougt that would get me in trouble in this community

    Petter1,

    The other software companies are

    1. Amazon
    2. Google
    3. discord
    4. Reddit
    5. Meta
    6. Apple
    7. Google

    🌚

    synapse1278,
    @synapse1278@lemmy.world avatar
    1. GrapheneOS: custom Android ROM with harden security and de-googled
    2. New Pipe: YouTube app, let’s you play video in the background and other cool features
    3. Signal: privacy and security focused messaging app
    4. MPV: video player, supports all the codecs you will ever need, very lightweight
    5. Libre wolf: Firefox with harden security and privacy
    6. KeepassXC: password manager
    7. Aurora Store: frontend for Google Play store, you can download and manage apps without a Google account
    8. FDroid: app store for Free Open Source Software apps
    9. (Free tube: another client for YouTube as but I am not familiar with this one)
    DaddleDew,

    This is something that sneaks up on you as well. And all that started a few years ago when I finally decided to get myself my first smartphone and tried to optimize data usage and battery life. I then realized that not only some apps and “system processes” were using battery and data when not in use, but that there wasn’t even given a way for me to stop it from happening. I also got creeped out when I moved to work in another building and Facebook started giving me friend suggestions of people who worked there. Location wasn’t even enabled on my phone.

    And now today I have no mainstream social media account, run GrapheneOS on my phone, Linux on my computer and have migrated to almost entirely FOSS software and apps. I have become the crazy privacy obsessed weirdo.

    ricdeh,
    @ricdeh@lemmy.world avatar

    Not a weirdo. It is the only reasonable thing to do. Unfortunately, many people lack education about the true extent of mass surveillance / profiling and the potential massive repercussions that it can have for society à la Nineteen Eighty-Four.

    Bytemeister,

    Facebook started giving me friend suggestions of people who worked there. Location wasn’t even enabled on my phone.

    Some devices will still passively check SSIDs, even with WiFi “off”, then they just look for users who have similar nearby wireless networks.

    Bluetooth? Maybe even ultrasound to detect nearby devices?

    I don’t think you can have privacy online anymore. The best thing you can do is make a lot of noise, so it’s hard to determine what data is real, and who it belongs to.

    MrSoup,

    True, true.

    LodeMike,

    Privacy is not a myth. Keep resisting.

    MrSoup,

    This does remember me the cyberdeck.cafe cookies popup with the button “Resistance is Futile” (uBlock automatically removes it).

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