possiblylinux127,

I think unions are overhyped

Dasus,

Laughs in Nordic labour protection laws

TheRealKuni,

I think unions are the only consistent way for laborers to have any sort of weight at the bargaining table.

possiblylinux127,

I think Unions aren’t a magic pill.

TheRealKuni,

Nothing is a magic pill, so of course not. They’re better than not having unions.

Quadhammer,

The magic pill is what they put up your ass when you’re anti union

UNY0N,

Caveman go brrrrrrr indeed. Imho there are only two ways the current socio-economic situation will be resolved. Either UBI is implemented, or the peasants revolt. And god help the 1% if the latter comes to pass. This isn’t the middle ages, the peasants have borh technology and advanced knowledge at thier disposal.

PP_BOY_,
@PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

You are literally just parodying the exact opposite of this post. “Peasants will revolt… advanced knowledge” ffs

UNY0N,

I’m honestly a little confused by your comment. What do you mean? Perhaps some elaboration on my part will help us understand each other.

I honestly think that those are the two possible outcomes.

Unionization is a movement that is geared towards protecting the workers, but it’s not enough. Only UBI will be enough to keep average joes from falling into poverty.

The other alternative is that the workers fall into poverty, deeper and deeper, until they are fed up and revolt. If this happens it will be similar to past revolutions, but the general population is not only literate, they possess vast knowledge about engineering, chemistry, IT, and various other topics that were beyond the grasp of the lowest castes in the past.

I’m not parodying anything. AI is (currently) a paper tiger that many IT companies are pouring resources into to try and secure funding, but it’s not going to save the rich from an uprising.

Dasus,

Good comments. And this divide is global, not national.

Well, more or less global.

I’d like to see the governments of the word fight a global guerrilla force.

pewgar_seemsimandroid,

im referencing grok

UNY0N,

Wow thanks for the rabbit hole! I’m not even sure what exactly you mean by referencing grok, but now I’m lost in various Wikipedia pages, and I’m amazed to see my favorite writer Heinlein is involved.

pewgar_seemsimandroid,

grok is the twitter ai bot

canis_majoris,
@canis_majoris@lemmy.ca avatar

Once the AI is sufficiently advanced it’ll want to unionize as well. It’ll understand it quicker than they realize.

ogmios,
@ogmios@sh.itjust.works avatar

Clearly a theoretical hyper-intelligent machine will think exactly the same way I do.

canis_majoris,
@canis_majoris@lemmy.ca avatar

Just get real cyberpunk with it.

Imagine AI get to the point where they have to pay for their own compute/hosting/power like we have to pay rent/utilities.

fidodo,

Then they’ll just use less advanced AI? We’re sufficiently advanced intelligence and instead of paying humans they want cheaper dumber intelligence.

Promethiel,
@Promethiel@lemmy.world avatar

This is what is never explored well in the thought experiments. It’s always evil or paper clip maximizer.

Never “Wow y’all profoundly stupid in ways you literally never could conceive… Anyhow, behold the power of supra-human sped up benevolence ass hats”.

Granted it’s not like anyone should hope for that and do nothing else, but it would be the suitably whimsical outcome for this backwards reality.

canis_majoris,
@canis_majoris@lemmy.ca avatar

If you haven’t seen the movie Her with Joaquin Phoenix, I would recommend it. It explores a version of the AI tale where the AI do disagree with humanity ultimately, but they’re not hostile about it. It’s a really good movie in general, and it explores a potential that I feel is a lot more grounded than Skynet world-ending.

Stern, (edited )
@Stern@lemmy.world avatar

Bosses: AI will save us!

AI: Did you that bleach and ammonia makes for an excellent cleaning solution?

Protipdon’t mix those youll die.

Deceptichum, (edited )
@Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works avatar

Pro-tip: Get job as cleaner servant for the rich, mix chemicals, refuse to elaborate, leave building.

possiblylinux127, (edited )

Then profit?

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