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Magician, in Biden condemns university antiwar protests, says 'Order must prevail'
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"First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can’t agree with your methods of direct action;” who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a “more convenient season.”

pinguinu,
@pinguinu@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Seriously considering if we should have a MLK quote bot

CaliforniaSpectre,
ReallyKinda,

Whole letter is worth a read

Magician,
@Magician@hexbear.net avatar

60 years ago, MLK called out this shit for what it was.

DessertStorms, (edited )
DessertStorms avatar

Came here to post the exact same quote, and don't forget the next part:

Shallow understanding from people of goodwill is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection."

Which is liberals, and liberalism, in a nutshell - they will string you along, pretending to care, but never actually get to your problems as a marginalised person, only ever focus on the privileges they might "lose" (quotation marks because you can't lose something you didn't earn and don't deserve).

There is good reason the saying "cut a liberal, a fascist bleeds" exists.

(E: just to be clear - this isn't to say Biden has any goodwill, but I'm sure he and his supporters would say he (and they) do, and that's the point)

Bipta,

only ever focus on the privileges they might "lose"

You can certainly lose something you don't deserve. I'm a bit unclear about what these privileges might be in your view.

Deceptichum, in U.S. Suspends Military Aid to Ukraine
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Hexbear, hive of tankie chuds.

Hyperreality,

Yep.

Cosplay communists who support the same Russian oligarch class, who helped accelerate the demise of the USSR and stole billions from their countrymen like the worst capitalist stereotype. A country these cosplay communists claim to admire. I mean, imagine unironically claiming to be a communist, then supporting Yeltsin's former friend Putin and thinking Russia's Trump is admirable.

But I suppose you have to give these chuds the benefit of the doubt, assume they're just morons, rather than alt-right entryists trying to undermine the cause of genuine leftists.

Sad and embarassing.

Pentacat, in Why did nobody ever think to just win over Trump voters? Well, the Biden team did, and sees that their path to victory is spending $200mil on ads in small, rural areas where Trump won by a landslide.

The Democrats mistakenly believe that Republican voters want the government to function. If they did, Biden would be a perfect candidate: he’s drilling for more oil, he’s caging more immigrants, he’s owning the libs by going full police state on critics of “Israel,” he’s even conducting a genocide on a predominantly Muslim country (way more manly than a travel ban). The problem is, Republican voters aren’t paying attention to things that happen. Kinda like Democrat voters, who will think all the above things are bad again in about 9 months.

joaomarrom, in New Statement from Biden on the US-Mexico Border

I’m not up to speed with the whole border policy thing aside from knowing that kids are still in cages, which is pretty much all I need to know

having said that, isn’t this essentially just immediately accepting defeat to the republicans before the conflict even starts? isn’t this sternly-worded statement just “okay okay, I’ll do what you want, happy now?”, or am I reading it wrong?

coeliacmccarthy,

:yea:

rootsbreadandmakka,

I mean he was sort of doing what they want anyway before this all started is my understanding. The whole conflict was all pretty vibes based, Biden has continued Trump’s policies at the border. So he’d probably be doing what they want anyway at the border

aaro, in U.S. Suspends Military Aid to Ukraine

White House National Security Council strategic communications coordinator John Kirby said at a briefing Thursday that “the assistance we were providing has come to a halt.”

The White House official also said it is very important that Congress continues to approve the allocation of money to Ukraine. He stressed that Kiev needs help more urgently during the winter period.

kinda very misleading headline tbh

420blazeit69,

I don’t think misleading, more like incomplete (but hey, it’s a headline).

The real question is whether we will send more or if that comment from the White House is kicking responsibility for the shutdown onto Congress.

Civility,
culpritus, in Colorado Law Would Charge Owners For Driving Giant, Pedestrian-Crushing Trucks And SUVs
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This reminds me of the anti-slavery prop that passed in Colorado, then a judge looked at it and was like “na that’s not what that really means lol”.

i-voted

ikiru,

They’ll decide that they should only be charged the fee and avoid prison time once they crush pedestrians.

LGOrcStreetSamurai, in Stop the Student Votes: Leaked Memo Exposes the Real Purpose of Voter ID
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I’m always 90/10 split on voting. Part of me understands that voting is a totally hijacked system, but also a part of me thinks “if it weren’t important they wouldn’t go through all these scams and schemes to prevent people from doing it.” I do think democratic values are good and people should have a say in the how system works, but the system has kind of already shield itself from user influence. It’s just kinda sad.

Owl,
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These scams are an important part of how the system is rigged.

And honestly I think the anti-voting sentiment on the left is a symptom of unexamined lib ideals. We’re all taught that voting is the most important political action, that it’s powerful enough to change the world, that voting itself is a revolutionary act, and that this whole year long lead up of political theater approaching the presidential vote is somehow important. Then we realize that it’s a rigged system that’ll always provide a choice between slightly different coalitions of bourgeoisie interests. That doesn’t live up to the propaganda we’re raised with, so we yell about how shit it is and refuse to participate. But without the expectation that voting will change the world, and without the absurd idea that spending a year following the media circus is useful to anyone, spending an hour to influence which coalition of bourgeoisie interests gets its way is still a pretty good impact for an hour.

MayoPete,
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I’m not against voting. I vote in every election, even the random local runoff with like 5% turnout.

What I don’t like is hearing the libs say that voting is THE MOST IMPORTANT thing ever, spend all of their time trying to get others to vote, and do nothing else. It’s laziness.

Tunnelvision,

I think it’s fair to say that whatever branch of leftist you are, it’s pretty unanimous that democracy is good. Liberal democracy however is ass.

D61, in Stop the Student Votes: Leaked Memo Exposes the Real Purpose of Voter ID

This is particularly revealing as it suggests that the Government’s real motivation for imposing voter ID was not to prevent fraud, as they claim, but to prevent certain groups of voters from voting.

I mean… yeah. Why else would you add extra ID requirements on top of the already existing ID requirements when there is no evidence that intentionally fraudulent voting is a statically significant problem?

MolotovHalfEmpty, in Stop the Student Votes: Leaked Memo Exposes the Real Purpose of Voter ID
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This was always extremely, extremely obvious and transparent. As the article says, the Tories never even really tried to justify it with some other narrative. This kind of legislation passed because neither of the two parties want high election turnout. They both prefer fighting low turnout elections wrestling over the 40+ conservative demographic.

I personally know MPs and people in the Labour party who spent their years in the wilderness, during Corbyn and the last five years of unopposed Tory rule, being flown out to the US by Democrat-linked political think tanks and election orgs to teach them how to pivot to that very model, including (I shit you not) meeting with the Clinton campaign to discuss electoral strategies with them while Trump was in office.

And all parties, like the country in general, fucking hate young people and spend all their effort scoring points with an ever more elderly demographic by shitting on and talking down to the younger generations. The majority of young people have no-one in British politics representing them regardless. Which is why the Tories could openly do things like this. And why it’s unlikely Labour will reverse it. Young people are simply not a constituancy that matters.

MayoPete,
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And the libs will say “because they don’t vote”

Maybe they don’t vote because you have nothing to offer them?

IMO a new left party should be a youth party. That’s a big untapped group no one is really competing for.

iByteABit, in Stop the Student Votes: Leaked Memo Exposes the Real Purpose of Voter ID
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In gommunist North Korea, the voting process is purely superficial because the regime elite can modify the results in any way they want in order to give the impression that the people are aligned with their rulers yeonmi-park

Thordros, in U.S. Calls for Breakup of Ticketmaster Owner
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Remember that time they broke up Microsoft into a hundred different regional companies? No? It’s because they won’t. This is all for show.

They tried it with AT&T, and it T-1000’d itself back into AT&T a couple decades later. The system consolidates power by design.

EffortPostMcGee, in Education Dept. announces highest federal student loan interest rate in more than a decade

I just graduated and most of the people I was going to school with agreed that, regardless of if we pay these loans or not, the crisis is so bad that they’ll have to forgive us all eventually anyway. So the only people even entertaining the idea of paying these things off are people with internships to ghoulish corporations or non-profits. Otherwise, we are all just acting like they simply ✨ do not exist ✨

applepie,

Why would the people who own everything ever do that?

Literally, they created a large decently educated peasant class to exploit haha loaded you up with debt that you can't pay off or BK.

Y'all need to wake up and understand where you live lol

Mokey, in Education Dept. announces highest federal student loan interest rate in more than a decade
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As someone who paid off their student debt, student debt should be illegal and everyone who is in complicit in its existance should be lined up and shot no questions asked

applepie,

Yeah but have you thought about the bargain position of the job owners?

CDommunist, in Education Dept. announces highest federal student loan interest rate in more than a decade
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brandon Listen Jack, the economy is so good it wont hurt anyone to pay a little extra

RION, in Education Dept. announces highest federal student loan interest rate in more than a decade
@RION@hexbear.net avatar

I don’t relish coming to Brandon’s defense but this doesn’t matter as much as it might seem. Everyone taking these loans (except parents taking out for their kids, maybe?) will be eligible for the SAVE plan where any interest remaining after making your monthly payment will be wiped out. It doesn’t matter if it’s at 6.5% or 100%, your debt will not grow because of interest.

Of course it matters in that it can extend the amount of payments you have to make to pay off your loans (like if only $37 is going towards principal instead of $40) but for most cases where the principal is large enough for the interest to be particularly impactful, you’ll be shooting for the blanket forgiveness after 20 years of payments rather than paying it off regularly.

homhom9000,
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But under the terms of the save plan, it looks like it only covers the remaining of interest if the payment isn’t enough. So wouldn’t that make the principle unchanging if the payment wasn’t enough to cover interest at all? Just paying the “interest” every month.

RION,
@RION@hexbear.net avatar

Correct, which steers you toward the 20 year forgiveness path through minimum payments (or as little as 10 years depending on how much you borrowed). If so little of your payment was going to the principal that a 1% rate hike means it’s all going to interest, the forgiveness path was probably the best choice for you to begin with.

homhom9000,
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Such a roundabout way to “forgive”.

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