For real. One of the most disappointing experiences of my life was the first time I tried In N Out. I took a couple bites, sat back, and just thought, “That’s it? That’s what everyone thinks is a great burger? What the fuck is wrong with everyone?”
Cool. No one should care, because the face tissues are useless. Besides, breathing into the same mask all day, combined with oils off your face, as you constantly grab it with your fingers to readjust it, defeats the whole purpose. Then there’s the utterly useless cloth masks that people wear several times over. I mean, there’s zero studies to prove their effectiveness to begin with. But, society conforms itself because it’s “for your/other’s safety”
With the composition of the supreme Court right now that doesn’t matter. Just say you’re a devout Christian and that they’re impinging your rights, doesn’t matter if you have to lie about the essential facts of the case even they will side with you.
This policy is obviously insane and, I hope, legally challengeable. That everyone is acting like this will cause all the customers to die is alao absurd. I live in a pretty liberal area of the country and basically no one is wearing masks anywhere.
I went to in-n-out yesterday and literally no one there had masks, customers or employees.
My wife and I ate in the car as per usual, but I know full well that we’re some of the last holdouts.
I got it very early, back in March 2020 and had severe long covid from it. I had trouble just breathing for the following year and moderate aphasia for nearly three years. I still have mild aphasia and, as a professional communicator, it’s been emotionally devastating.
I know the current strains don’t cross the blood brain barrier as easily as the earliest strains, but the idea of going back down that road doesn’t sound terribly appealing.
My wife was recently diagnosed with a congenital condition and covid could give her a permanent disability or even kill her. We’re consulting with doctors, but we’re still very much in the uncertainty phase.
Finally, a friend of ours, who’s been nearly as cautious as we are, recently got pressured into unmasking at a corporate retreat, got covid and now has (permanent?) heart damage. We all know it’s a fluke and just very bad luck, but it’s no less traumatizing for her or her family.
There will almost certainly be a time in the near future where we no longer mask for basic activities. We watch things like excess deaths, wastewater analysis and hospitalizations as closely as possible and the situation is clearly improving.
That said, every war has a final victim, and we have no intention of being that person. For now, masking is physically easy, we have a social circle that we trust and honestly don’t miss a lot of the excesses we’ve stepped away from.
I am very sorry to hear that about your family and friends…I know of a couple people who ad Long Form COVID and it was similar. I hope the best for you and your family moving forward! Thank you for sharing.
Where do you find those metrics you’re following? I’m also hesitant to drop all precautions as I don’t think my mental health could take an extended bout of brain fog. I’m a bit of a hermit anyway, and like you said, masking is easy.
I hardly see masks in public at all anymore, though, so I’m feeling unsure about how to tell if everybody’s just acting like it’s over when it isn’t, or if I’m holding out way longer than necessary.
I generally check this every week to get a high-level feel for how the pandemic is going. For months now there’s been around a 1% drop every week. You’ll notice a slight up-tick this last week, breaking that trend.
Not all waste water data gets sent there, so Google your state ant COVID waste water and you can probably find some universities or state government run trackers that might have better data specific to your area.
Finally, excess mortalities can be a helpful metric to watch as well, but it’s more about the overall state of the pandemic, not how any particular week is going.
Okay, so what if the employee is protecting the customers from themselves? If the employee had a sniffle or whatever I would much prefer they wore a mask.
Isn’t the appeal of in-n-out the lower price point compared to other fast food burger places, rather than the options or stellar flavor? 5 guys is way more expensive and the customization/taste reflects that.
Agreed that 5 Guys is pricier (although here in CA fast food prices everywhere are through the roof) but, and this is just my opinion, which is basically worthless to anyone else - if I am going to pay In-n-out prices, I’d rather just go to Wendy’s or McDonalds. Although I will say that the shakes at in-n-out are the best, again just my opinion.
Because In N Out is also in Texas (my city has both), they are comparable in quality/price, and they are presently expanding. I’m sorry this information does not help you specifically, but that does not mean it’s useless to everyone.
The people who made this decision when they talk about vaccines: “My body, my choice, you can’t tell me what to do!”
Same people, when they talk about masking, abortion or anything else: “Your body, my choice, I can and will tell you what to do!”
My skull would probably crack from the cognitive dissonance if I tried holding these two opinions, but it seems some people have no issues with it at all…
Me in summer through winter of 2020: “Well, silver lining about COVID is that we all learned how to wear masks once this all blows over.”
Conservative family: “Agree!”
Me during the unending apocalypse in summer 2023: “We should wear masks with the air quality so poor [unsaid: due to the now present and undeniable human-caused climate change.”
Exact same conservative family: “That sounds like socialism and fascism to me”
I'm not terribly surprised, given as they print bible verses on their packaging. Sad to see another relatively decent Christian business go down the alt-right rabbit hole, but their burgers aren't good enough for me to risk the plague because they can't follow basic safety guidelines.
It's messed up. Imagine the memo said, that in-n-out bans hairnets, gloves and washing hands unless the offender has a medical note.
I don't argue for mandating it, as it is very hot in the kitchen, and mask would make it even worse experience, but pandemic or not this makes sense when working on food, it makes it more sanitary, and if employees wants to wear masks all power to them, they should not be penalized.
Some of them literally did that right at the start of the pandemic before everything got shut down for quarantine because "it might scare the patients."
The hospital I get my care from here in Los Angeles still requires masks, and the security guard will make you put one on before you can enter the lobby. 👍
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