just_change_it,

Christina Elson, the executive director of the Center for the Study of Capitalism at Wake Forest University, told Business Insider that many young people had embraced an idea she calls “safety capitalism.”

Ah yes, the executive director for the center for the study of capitalism says young folks want capitalism.

Come the fuck on.

Krauerking,

Oh yeah. That sounds like exactly the person who would come up with a stupid fucking buzzword to get an article written they can use to show they understand capitalism extra well.

Dracocide,

Net? There was a net?

Gestrid,

current social safety net is broken

To shreds, you say?

TimewornTraveler,

I’m fully on board with calling it “safety capitalism” or even “jesus reckoning savior economics” if i get what I want. at this point most of America just tunes out “socialism”

qevlarr, (edited )
@qevlarr@lemmy.world avatar

Who comes up with these words? Boomers inventing their own propaganda

mlg,
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar

safety capitalism has to be the most absurd stand in for socialism or welfare I’ve ever heard lmao

Really reaching new levels of copium

Fades,

those other words have been coopted by the right so i get it

root_beer, (edited )

Who the hell cares, so long as it leads to some fundamental changes

If it is adopted we can refer to it as babby’s first socialism, right before the c-suites are rightfully purged and execs replaced with the workers on the floor

HipHoboHarold,

I wouldnt say stand in for socialism unless they’re talking about socilism. It sounds like they’re talking about capitalism with social benefits.

dangblingus,

I dunno. I like the one where the workers vote for who the boss at the factory is and then they all take home a share of the profits.

return2ozma,
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Raiderkev,

Workers rights were earned in blood. Not a lot of people know that.

Facebones,

By design

root_beer,

More like return2breakingdownthefactoryowner’sdoorandbeatinghimtodeathinfrontofhisfamily, right? Woof that’s a mouthful, maybe not. But still,

SeaJ,

This already has a name: a welfare state or socialism. No need to pull made up terms out of your ass.

mindbleach,

Conservatives view reality as a team sport. They don’t really care what the words mean, they’re just reacting to how things sound.

You could call outright communism “super-capitalism” and they’d endorse every aspect of it. Would that make sense? Of fucking course not. But making sense is never what they’re trying to do.

kttnpunk,
@kttnpunk@lemmy.world avatar

Lol “safety capitalism” the editors wouldn’t even let them say socialist. Just the state of the world in 2024 -fight harder, people. I personally can’t handle what this shit does to my blood pressure anymore

Asafum,

I think it’s a smart move actually. The right is really good at turning a good word/description into “pure evil.” They killed socialism so keep the dynamics and change the name.

It’s like the morons that were asked if they liked Obamacare and if they liked the affordable care act. It’s the same thing but people said they hate Obamacare but liked the affordable care act… Right wing brainwashing at its finest…

kttnpunk,
@kttnpunk@lemmy.world avatar

I feel like that’s the reason I tend to preach anarchism over communism in general and don’t doubt you’re right about the statistics and propaganda playing into perception but I can’t help but feel like here that comes off as rehabilating the image of capitalism. We can make a softer bed of knives or make one out of foam- I know which one I’m choosing

Pixlbabble,

That’s not a safety net they are looking for, that’s pay me while I fuck off and spend on credit for 20 years.

themeatbridge,

This is the stupidest article I’ve ever read.

OldWoodFrame,

The latest iteration of the same “younger people more left wing” article newspapers have been writing for 60 years.

webghost0101,

Except that that is slowly no longer being the case.

Millennials where promised we get more conservative over time and for many the opposite appears true. Even gen x is in many ways already more left wing then the boomers.

To me it appears as the boomer generation was fed so much propaganda after the war it became ingrained in society, it took a few generations to finally get it out our system but it is starting to happen. The kids will be alright.

Cowbee,

The old will be dragged kicking and screaming into progress, as usual.

Jax,

that is slowly no longer being the case

Proceeds to agree with the comment that young people are more left

Did you accidentally a word there? Cuz you agree with the guy you’re responding to.

webghost0101, (edited )

The comment above indicated that this is the same old story as it always been. It had a reminiscent of the myth that you become more conservative with age. The way i see it, this is not the case, times are changing and in many ways they are already different.

So yes i agree that in effect young people are more left but it has nothing to do with biological age. The next generation after z may have a serious chance of being free from the cycle, being about as left as their parents.

I think a more fair statement then “the young are more Left” would be “postwar propaganda made people anti-left witch became part of intergenerational trauma.” This is evidenced by how the word socialism can already trigger people into becoming upset, that is not normal.

cycle

stoly,

I’ve thought a lot about it these past several years and I agree with you. Boomers were so propandized before there were any protections that they had no choice but to be narcissistic and materialistic.

3volver,

The lack of safety net is a feature of late-stage capitalism, not a flaw.

Xeroxchasechase,

It was also a feature of early stage capitalism. But instead of analysing features, it’s better to orginize and fight for political change

3volver,

Exactly, but my point is their view isn’t big enough, it’s the entire system that facilitates this to be the case. We need political change on a foundational level, like getting rid of 2 senators per state and the electoral college.

FlyingSquid,
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I agree with you in principle, but honestly, if we can get countries like the U.S. in the same position as Scandinavia in terms of a social safety net, that would be such a vast improvement over the status quo and it would be far easier to achieve.

SupraMario,

Yep, I don’t understand this. Do people really think the euro countries aren’t built upon capitalism?

AnarchoSnowPlow,

“You hear about ‘billionaires should be outlawed’ — that really isn’t the issue,” Elson previously told BI regarding Gen Zers’ concerns. “The issue is the bottom. What is the appropriate bottom living standard for an American citizen, and what role should the government have in ensuring that people don’t fall below that?”

Yes, this sad situation over here has absolutely nothing to do with sociopathic pursuit of a high score in our totally unflawed economic system.

crusa187,

They could not possibly have more regressive framing - gross. What a sad attempt at sleight of hand.

Potatos_are_not_friends,

What is the appropriate bottom living standard for an American citizen, and what role should the government have in ensuring that people don’t fall below that?"

Wow. She really said those words. Like with a straight face.

Absolutely knew she was going to get quoted and then said these words.

insomniac_lemon,
insomniac_lemon avatar

My brain says this is related to Safety Dance, and I don't dance.

everett, (edited )

I’m here to let you know that you can dance if you want to.

themeatbridge,

But my friends don’t dance…

SkyezOpen,

If they don’t dance then… Fuck em.

themeatbridge,

Sadly, they don’t do that, either.

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