ebassi,
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Imagine the Linux community bringing water to the well of a closed source GPU driver as a way to block the completion of the Wayland migration in a bleeding edge Linux distribution that has already switched to Wayland by default nearly 7 years ago.

ebassi,
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Unity fucks up the ToS of their product in a fit of greed: "RMS was right! Stop depending on closed source software!"

Fedora considers dropping legacy windowing system: "You can't ignore nVidia users with their closed source drivers!"

ebassi,
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The other fun thing in the Linux community:

ebassi,
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Linux users: "People should vote with their wallets and not buy hardware with closed source drivers"
Also Linux users: "But what about gamers"

ebassi,
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The other justification: "what about the laptop that my company got me and that uses nvidia"

If you have a work laptop that uses nvidia either you're using CUDA, in which case: use the integrated GPU for your desktop; or you're using your GPU for drawing stuff on screen, in which case use nouveau. I hope you're not planning to play Starfield on company resources.

ebassi,
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If your company got you a laptop from a vendor that does not wire the integrated GPU to the display then: sure, it sucks to be you. You may be able to return it; and next time, get a decent laptop.

jgxvx,

@ebassi Yeah, I know a lot of people, including myself, with company-issued Thinkpads where only the Nvidia GPU is wired to the display ports. I use Wayland on my desktop with an Nvidia GPU and it works great. Those Optimus laptops, on the other hand… 😬

Switches,

@ebassi tbh if they are talking linux gamers the work with NVK and the GPU kernel stuff Nvidia/Collabara as well as others are doing will atleast cure it for most (from Turing series cards atleast).

Tbh I personally think a lot are blowing it out of proportion again. We've always had issues like this in Linux and all it ever did was to push certain people to work out different approachs. I'm actually looking forward to them dropping it and seeing how Wayland and NVK progress

hrw,
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@ebassi I wonder what will be first: KDE developers will start using keyboards with numpad or Fedora 40 gets released.

If Fedora 40 then I will stay with 39 for longer.

r3pek,
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@ebassi can't see how is that a problem (dropping X11 with nVidia).
I was running Wayland (+ XWayland but that isn't really an nvidia problem) with a 970 GTX like 2 or 3 years ago.

ebassi,
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@r3pek I used to have a 970 before I switched to AMD; the Wayland support in the closed driver is still kind of "meh", which I fully expect, considering the amount of feet dragging from nvidia. Nevertheless, I decided to do the appropriate thing that we keep saying to people using closed source software: I voted with my wallet, and stopped buying nvidia GPUs.

r3pek,
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@ebassi x2 😉 currently building my new box and it's going to be running AMD all the way.

odoben,
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@ebassi
I've been running GNOME on Wayland with the Nvidia drivers for about a year and it's been a stable experience. Although I imagine it might vary, depending on the GPU model.

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