Hey, anyone had a lot of juniors they have trained/mentored at work who’d like to have a chat with me one of these days? I think I need some advice. It’s funny how I always have new stuff to learn.
I was unclear, I didn’t mean all at once! Though that is definitely also interesting. More having had experience with doing this with a few of people, maybe one at a time. Preferably programmers.
@Patricia In Germany, you can learn programming as a three year apprenticeship, and I had been teaching three (or four?) generations of apprentices programming at a company I worked for in the 90s/2000s. I've also mentored a bunch of interns and students who worked with teams I was part of.
I'm not sure if you want to get into contact with me or the mentored. I can do the first, and might be able to motivate a few of the second.
I taught more than 1000 students over the 15 years as a professor. a few dozens very directly when they did project work with me as their supervisor or after graduating working in my institute. even before that I always tried to grow my employees.
@PeterSommerlad@sbi yeah, I know the theory (and the practice 😄 I’ve been building stuff for decades) what I was hoping for was experience with humans.
@Patricia@PeterSommerlad@sbi I can participate in an interview. I had highly diverse experiences with young folks during my Ducktrain phase where most of the employees were student workers or young professionals. Do not expect advice from me. The older I become the more hesitant I get telling others what success strategy they should pursue.
@markuswerle@PeterSommerlad@sbi I think one of my issues is how to bridge the gap between learning from someone else’s mistakes and learning by making the same ones. I think maybe we need something in between, but accelerated, so that it won’t take them as long as it took me 😅 but at the same time that they will internalize why it matters. And maybe to do that you need some sort of “controlled failure”? Maybe this is too vague. But I’m realizing that a lot of the “way I do stuff” has come out of learning from “how I totally failed at stuff”.
@Di4na@Patricia@markuswerle@PeterSommerlad@sbi before we discuss measures can we first clarify what is our goal? Is it teaching people in a way they profit most of or is it putting people up to speed to have them as productive members of our company/society? Or does the distinction really matter?
@markuswerle@Patricia@PeterSommerlad@sbi in my case, neither. It is about enabling people to more quickly get to the point where they do not kill themselves or others at the same time :D This is about getting people to a higher level of expertise faster. This is not about taking people who are untrained into experts. It is about enabling people to get to that higher level more quickly.
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