dave_andersen,
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Well, this will be an interesting way to throw away money. :-) I decided to invest (a small amount) in kagi.com - the search engine I've been using since last year.

I remain very happy having switched, but I still !g (have it direct to google) for geo-related queries, something I hope they'll improve upon in the longer term. I love that I can downrank specific sites like pinterest or geeksforgeeks that annoy the hell out of me.

Most early-stage investments lose, but I'm intrigued to watch. 🤓

jbigham,
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@dave_andersen and, if the whole subscription-based small search thing doesn't work out, they can always sell their index to an AI wannabe! :)

dave_andersen,
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@jbigham 😿

dave_andersen,
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@jbigham They're a little odd in that sense - they're building up their own index, but they vector most queries also to, I think, both Google and Bing, and then rank within that entire set of sources. I believe they plan to keep expanding the self-index part of it as they grow.

What will be interesting is that right now, Kagi's too small for SEO asshats to pay attention to. If they grow large enough, will they inevitably suck, or does subscription guard against enshittification?

jbigham,
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@dave_andersen but, they'd have to grow really big right? i feel like i heard that one reason why macs had so many fewer viruses traditionally is because they were second in the market and so who would bother! (and of course much more secure better products ;P)

dave_andersen,
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@jbigham Ah, there it is: https://help.kagi.com/kagi/search-details/search-sources.html

> Internal ... web index [Teclis] and news index [TinyGem]

> External: Our data includes anonymized API calls to traditional search indexes like Google, Yandex, Mojeek and Brave, specialized search engines like Marginalia, and sources of vertical information like Wolfram Alpha, Apple, Wikipedia, Open Meteo, Yelp, TripAdvisor and other APIs.

jbigham,
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@dave_andersen i wonder what queries they send to apple…

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