gay_ornithischians, (edited )
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my thoughts on Reiner, A. 2023

(painting by Dylan Bajda, it has been cropped and vandalized for this post)

gay_ornithischians,
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someone, anyone plz refute it :(

llewelly,
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@gay_ornithischians I don't even understand it. (Possibly it has something to do with movies, which I don't watch.)

gay_ornithischians,
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gay_ornithischians,
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@llewelly (from what i understood) it argues that because of the way the dinosaur brain is structured it cannot evolve human like intelligence

llewelly,
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Finally I'm trying to read the paper.

Figure 1a , "... a tree depicting the phylogeny of the cerebral cortex in placental mammals," seems to have been copied verbatim from a 2013 text which I can't read, but - why does it have a branch labeled "insectivores"? By 2013 it was known that insectivores were not a clade. Also, humans are great apes, and shouldn't be labeled as a separate branch.

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Maybe these are minor issues not germane to the course of the paper's arguments, but it makes me feel like reading the rest of the paper isn't worth it.

gay_ornithischians,
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@llewelly one of the arguments is that the parts of mammal brains are said to be sheet like while dinosaur ones are 3d. according to the paper this makes it so that emerging connections between bird brain parts would be longer which would result in latency. and the bigger the brain became the worse this problem would be

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@llewelly (i could be misrepresenting the arguments due to poor understanding on my part)

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Latency affects how much time it takes for a correct solution to be found, but it doesn't affect what kinds of problems can be solved or the correctness of the answers. (Ironically, this is among the first things taught in indroductory computer sciences courses on algorithms, but nonetheless the computer industry has a fetish for speed, or at least the appearance thereof. )

gay_ornithischians, (edited )
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@llewelly latency is what i called one of the issues described (because that is what it sounded like to me), but it may not be what the author was getting at

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