With the greenlight of Columbia President Minouche Shafik and her administration, NYPD has entered Hind Hall through the windows and begun to mass arrest students inside. Let this be remembered as Columbia and Shafik’s legacy: one of mobilizing the violence and terror of the state against their own students and faculty, solely to prevent an end to Columbia’s complicity in a genocide.
I really have not noticed that it is Islamic/tankie people per your words, but rather just everyday people who hate to see others getting killed be it Jewish people or Palestinians. I know I fall into that camp and just wish for the violence to stop. If you read the comment history of most here, there is no evidence of the types you claim outside of a small %. You have to look to know.
This protest is not a thing that matters. No one will remember this in a year, probably less than that. Because you can’t just break random rules as a protest. You have to break the specific rule that is unjust. This building is not the center of Israeli government or the IDF.
If these students went downtown to the Holocaust museum and held up signs saying “Gaza is a modern Holocaust”, that would work better. They could protest outside the Israeli Consulate too. It would also be more efficient to just call a bunch of representatives and senators every day. Get 100 students to spend one hour making calls per day and you can tie up the Congressional switchboard. Do that for a month and you will get a response.
These students are mainly protesting to feel good about themselves. They are taking the easiest and coolest route. Actually organizing for change is tougher than just occupying your own school. It’s your school, you aren’t taking it from anyone.
Breaking and entering has never been a form of protest that’s acceptable. At this point the protest has just devolved into doing everything they can to get arrested like that.
No they just want to be cool and have control over some part of their lives. Like we all do. I completely understand but it’s not an effective way to protest.
Breaking and entering can easily be a good form of protest but it matters where you break into. The Jewish dude who broke into an American Nazi meeting in Madison Square Garden was a great protester.
I have been trying to verbalise this for a while. Thank you for this comment, it’s a perfect explanation and precisely encapsulates how I feel about these protests.
I agree with their intention, but they’re not actually helping their cause.
I know because of what you type on the internet, it lays bare who you really are. That’s why it’s so easy for me to know you did fuckall for Palestine.
I’m interpreting your comment as meaning you agree with the person you responded to, who entirely mischaracterized the protests and the protestors and painted a picture that can only be described as lying.
These protests have a list of specific demands, especially a demand to divest Columbia’s money from arms manufacturers supplying the genocide. Do not infantilize this. It is an organized maneuver with a specific goal.
Columbia was founded by slavery money. Most Ivy League schools are. They weren’t clean before and divesting from arms manufacturers is not going to make them clean.
Did these students care about that when they enrolled? No, they were all excited to go to a “good school” to get a high paying job. They don’t care about the investments. This is just a thing to do.
Wait, so students aren’t allowed to protest what their Universities do because they enrolled in those Universities, because of slavery? Do you realize how stupid you sound?
The Panthers were right. Revolutionaries should be armed.
If I recall correctly, the tenet was that every movement needs a non-violent faction and a radicalized faction. The non-violent faction is the carrot to the radicalized faction’s stick. A comparison might be labor unions: unions are supposed to be a reasonable compromise to managers not getting dragged out of their houses and beaten to death in the middle of the night (or assassinated in other ways). See: Renault CEO Georges Besse.
Unfortunately, so many pro-citizen, pro-labor movements have been overrun by the “strictly non-violence!” mindset and thereby defanged. Additionally, we’re the labor, for fuck’s sake! We could absolutely hit every oligarch and politician right where it hurts, yet here we are.
Who should then? Puppy murdering congresspeople? It’s a nationwide issue and the president is a nationwide authority. I think that it’s mostly his silence and support for Israel that sparked those protests
I like how when Biden is in office he doesn’t have the power to do anything other than eat toast and pass the time but apparently if Trump is president he has the power to end democracy as we know it.
This is how it always is with every president. While campaigning, they need to do everything under the sun and you need to elect them to do that, then once elected… oh snap, they just don’t have the power to do those things, ah shucks.
Well, I’m not jumping in to support either of these ideas, but I will say that both of those could be true. Historically the democrats play by the rules, to their own demise, while republicans break every rule they think they can get away with.
Don’t be lulled into complacency by liberals going mad over trump. All of the “he’s a hitler, no HE’S the next hitler! Hey, that guy is hitler!” and the “these masks are fascism!” And the “socialized medicine is fascism!” has desensitized us to the actual calls of fascism.
But it’s still entirely plausible. Humans have gone through cycles of general peace and prosperity and the worldwide rise of authoritarian movements sprouting up simulataneously. I gotta refind the article I read about it years ago, but it’s clear to see it’s happening again. Germany, Poland, Italy, India, Philippines, China, Russia, Brazil, Argentina, Colombia, Spain, France…I’m forgetting a few others, but authoritarianism is on the rise worldwide. We’re incredibly vulnerable right now.
So it’s entirely possible that any US president could end democracy as we know it. Especially right now. But at the same time, the president doesn’t have power over the nypd. So…yeah.
Then again, Biden is complicit in genocide. There’s no getting around that. But unfortunately our choice is that, or roll the dice on letting someone who openly says they would be an authoritarian with a party behind them willing to break the system to stay in power. (And eill also more enthusiastically and ruthlessly participate in genocide. The US is in bed with Israel, not just one president. Have been for quite a while.) Yeah, shit sucks. But here we are.
I don’t know why this is downvoted. I guess people just have believed the neoliberal lie that peaceful protest accomplish anything. Things get accomplished when there’s violence. The reason you aren’t all locked onto an assembly line in a factory somewhere from age of 8 to 80 is because your ancestors had guns and fought. It wasn’t peaceful. There was a war we fought.
Look at you attempting to be all passive aggressive. We all know you try really hard behind your keyboard. Maybe one day you can even talk to a person without hiding your identity.
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