jclinares,
jclinares avatar

Reminds me of the "Timelapse of the Future" video. It's great, and a little sobering.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD4izuDMUQA

FaceDeer,
FaceDeer avatar

I adore this one. The concluding quote by Helen Keller is worthy of being put on my tombstone.

s0x41,

Ah yes this video again. Time for another existential crisis.

Cmarak,

Billions of years condensed into a few paragraphs, yet so many details that you can analyse and further model in your head.

In the end the void takes us all.

tal,
tal avatar
dcpDarkMatter,
dcpDarkMatter avatar

Reminds me of the "The End of the World" podcast series.

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-the-end-of-the-world-with-30006093/

Saltuarium,

Fascinating, existentially terrifying stuff.
You all might enjoy the youtube video "Timelapse of the future" by melody sheep.

Shasdo,

Might as well post the direct link

https://youtu.be/uD4izuDMUQA

Love this guy's stuff, very soothing and good to concentrate while I work.

qball,
qball avatar

Can feel my existential dread gradually increasing as I keep reading further. Love shit like this.

Grimlo9ic,
Grimlo9ic avatar

Something about the extrapolation of events millions of years into the future reminds me greatly of The Last Question by Isaac Asimov (not to mention probably my most favorite Imgur comic about it).

FaceDeer,
FaceDeer avatar

You know, I think it's about time we got this ball rolling.

FaceDeer: ChatGPT, how can the net amount of entropy of the universe be massively decreased?

ChatGPT: The net amount of entropy in the universe cannot be massively decreased according to our current understanding of the laws of thermodynamics. The second law of thermodynamics states that the entropy of an isolated system tends to increase over time. Entropy can be thought of as a measure of disorder or randomness in a system. In a closed system, such as the universe, the total entropy can only remain constant or increase.

While it is possible to reduce entropy in a localized region or system, it always comes at the expense of increasing entropy elsewhere. For example, we can decrease entropy in a living organism by expending energy to maintain order and structure, but in the process, we release heat and increase entropy in the surrounding environment.

The concept of decreasing the net amount of entropy in the entire universe on a massive scale is not supported by our current scientific understanding.

There we go. See you guys at the end of time.

Grimlo9ic,
Grimlo9ic avatar

Holy shit lol. It actually gave the same answer, more or less.

FaceDeer,
FaceDeer avatar

A lot wordier, but then again Asimov was trying to write a short story about this. :)

killall-q,
killall-q avatar

I've been wondering if the radioactive decay of stable elements would be a factor in sub-light speed interstellar travel.

FaceDeer,
FaceDeer avatar

I've seen a lot of discussions on this kind of thing in the more scientifically-oriented science fiction subreddits, such as /r/IsaacArthur (currently blacked out as far as I'm aware). There are two main radiation-related concerns during long-duration sub-light travel. One is the damage done by cosmic rays and the potential radiation from whatever star drive or power source your vehicle is using. Long-duration trips will require some pretty hefty radiation shielding. Fortunately that's "just engineering", put a couple of meters of water in tanks around your important stuff and that's probably going to be good. For very long duration trips you might need to occasionally strip down and rebuild exposed parts since radiation will slowly degrade the materials they're made out of. That's more simple engineering.

The other problem is specific to "sleeper" ships, in which the passengers are frozen for the journey. The human body has trace amounts of potassium 40 and carbon 14 in it, those naturally occur in the environment. Normally this is no problem - they decay slowly and the body has self-repair mechanisms that deal with the tiny amount of damage they cause. But a frozen body isn't doing self-repair, so the damage accumulates over time. A human body will end up with a fatal amount of radiation damage after just a few thousand years frozen.

Granted, being frozen is going to be tremendously damaging to the human body as well. So it could be that by the time we can freeze and thaw people without killing them we'll have the tech to just fix that radiation damage as well. In a pinch, we can thaw the passengers every thousand years or so and give them some time to recover before re-freezing them. It'd be kind of a miserable experience subjectively since you'd only be aware of the time you spend recovering from radiation poisoning over and over, so perhaps best to keep the passenger sedated throughout that process. There's nothing else they'd need to be doing at those times anyway.

killall-q, (edited )
killall-q avatar

For journeys that could take 100k+ or millions of years though, I think no amount of preservation will allow any living organism to be reviveable at the destination, not even in embryonic form.

The only feasible way to establish continuation of life from Earth may be to store DNA and cellular molecular biology data in digital form, and artificially reconstruct fertilized eggs at the destination from raw materials. Even then, corruption of the data via cosmic rays would have to be mitigated, by having many copies of it and comparing frequently, with periodic refreshes of the storage medium.

iwaspunkrockonce,
iwaspunkrockonce avatar

We could digitize (or otherwise store) human consciousness, print new bodies at the destination, and install those consciousnesses in them. The idea is touched on in Exception. I'd guess the number of variables that come into play for this are pretty large, though.

BigVault,
BigVault avatar

I should have saved some, got hooked on it and went far too far.

Great and fascinating share.

Manifish_Destiny,

Man we shoulda started terraforming yesterday

StaticBoredom,
StaticBoredom avatar

What an amazing idea for an article. This will definitely get a permanent home on a browser tab. Thanks!

Ignacio,
Ignacio avatar

I would like to see the moment when a Boltzmann brain can appear in the void all of a sudden.

sethboy66,

10^10^50, if Andrei Linde's work is correct.

I don't give a unit to that time as it doesn't matter.

Although listed in years for convenience, the numbers at this point are so vast that their digits would remain unchanged regardless of which conventional units they were listed in, be they nanoseconds or star lifespans.

MoxFcCloud,

Wow, this is an incredible article!

Don't want to spoil anything for you if you're reading one a day so heads up

My favorite entry so far is that theoretically as the earth becomes totally uninhabitable due to increased size and temperature of the sun mars becomes more and more habitable

BorkBork,
BorkBork avatar

The great migration from Earth to Mars, similar to how we migrated from Eurasia to America. Hopefully an ice bridge also appears to facilitate the transfer

Parallax,
Parallax avatar

Mars Cycler is a proposed option to solve moving lots of people/things to Mars:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_cycler

StaticBoredom,
StaticBoredom avatar

Expedia is probably already working on their algorithm to maximize flight ticket profits to Mars in a few billion years.

Parallax,
Parallax avatar

I would love to read that internal email chain. :D

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