Zworf,

It’s a useful feature but it doesn’t need space on my taskbar or a special button on my keyboard. That’s just marketing BS. The same as with the huge search bar, because I can just press the start button and start typing and it does the same.

Unfortunately Microsoft is incredibly bad at marketing. They generally succeed only at pissing users off. Now they’re doing the same again with copilot and dumping a ton of totally different products under the same name.

sqgl,
Syndic,

As long as it’s a easily toogled off as the search bar is, I don’t mind.

Them getting rid of the ability to have different windows of the same kind with full title bar next to each other IMHO is a much bigger pain.

onlinepersona,

I’m surprised Windows users even want windows 🤷

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sirico,
@sirico@feddit.uk avatar

It’s not clippy and if it replaces the pointless error diagnosis system currently running I’m all for it. I’ve had no issues with it as a product in ides just basically advanced spell check.

cupcakezealot,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

i have it on mine and i actually use it. i don’t see what’s the big deal; it’s tucked over in the far bottom right of the screen out of the way and it’s not intrusive.

GlennicusM,

That’s all cool and good. What Microsoft needs to be doing is not adding shit to people’s PCs without their consent and make it easier to remove them (preferably during installation)

cupcakezealot,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

i mean i had to go in and add copilot to my taskbar manually and i can go into taskbar settings at any time and turn it off.

hamsterkill,

Screen corners are prime real estate. They have infinite size beyond the screen, allowing you to quickly fling the pointer to them. It’s a big reason things like app menus or the Mac’s Mission Control are accessed by the screen corners.

SolNine,

Given the reality that Linux simply isn’t viable for some people (including myself), I highly recommend using this tool.

christitus.com/windows-tool/

Between this, and manually uninstalling a lot of bloat (or using a specific type of windows install) and a few other tweaks, windows becomes significantly more usable.

Disabling garbage in the task bar, removing Cortana and indexing services, etc etc, it can also add a fairly decent uplift in performance.

I’m sure there is still telemetry being collected but significantly less and less impact on my user experience and day to day performance.

Oh and make sure you turn off auto/feature updates!

Alice,

Have Windows users ever wanted a single thing they added since XP? It seems like every time I upgrade they add some cluttery nonsense I can’t get rid of. I moved to Windows 10 for software compatibility, and I still hate it.

Michal,

They added a lot of things since XP that I enjoy, like window management, multiple desktops. I don’t know if they were specifically requested by windows users, but contrary to your opinion they are welcome changes. Users don’t always know what they want.

Alice,

Eh fair, to me that’s just severely outweighed by the bloatware and needing third party apps to customize the UI how I used to like. It feels uglier and bulkier and like they took away a ton of good functions.

sqgl,

There was a free version of virtual desktops already available.

Michal,

To me that proves that the feature was in demand. That’s why it’s included now.

Syndic,

Have Windows users ever wanted a single thing they added since XP?

The new terminal for example is a rather neat improvement over the old command prompt, especially with the integration of Linux systems. Winget also is rather nice. Just two examples. So yeah with all the valid criticism Microsoft deserves for quite a bit of policies, I don’t think your hyperbole holds up.

Alice,

Yeah, I know I was exaggerating. I’m just constantly pissed at stuff I swore I removed from my PC

a_wild_mimic_appears,

I wanted to swap to Pop!OS a few months ago, but since i’m an Nvidia user, I am waiting until Wayland plays nice with Nvidias drivers regarding explicit sync and everything gets rolled into Pop!OS.

I always was a Windows user because games, but with ProtonGE the “games” argument started falling flat, and MS is getting more and more intrusive. I do like VRR and Multimonitor setups tho, so X seemed like a poor choice, and Wayland/Nvidia is just not ready yet.

For everyone in the same boat, just keep an eye on this link: Explicit GPU Synchronization for DRI3, Present, and Xwayland

SuperSpecialNickname,

God I want to move to Linux, but I had some problems with games unfortunately. They would run fine, but had stutters. And some of them didn’t run, granted it was from an “unlicenced” source.

Still I’m gonna try again, I have to succeed eventually.

mara,
@mara@pawb.social avatar

Amusingly enough, the steam deck has made a lot of the state of this art get better. Usually if you mount the ISO and then tell Lutris to install it, it’ll work.

SuperSpecialNickname,

I deleted my original reply to your comment because I didn’t realize it was the repacks that were to blame and installing some of them really is a pain. I did try again and after a lot of tinkering and fixing it’s going fine for now. Steam and gog games run well so far.

I know that this might be pointless commenting now on this thread, but I felt like I had to right my wrong.

tarsisurdi,

Looks like we’re going to have to wait until May 15th for NVIDIA’s Beta drivers (555.xx) to add support for the recently merged explicit sync wayland protocol, but at least progress is being made to finally get these issues fixed.

If Wine on wayland were ready we wouldn’t depend on that merge request since the major compositors have already implemented the protocol, but I’m hopeful it won’t take long for XWayland to support it too since all threads were resolved and CI is already passing there.

This article gives a nice overview of the current situation: Explicit Sync Wayland Protocol Merged, Wayland Protocols 1.34 released

Xavier,

This is beautifully familiar.

Am I seeing too many similarities between how Twitter/X was taken over and singlehandedly being irreversibly ruined?

While Windows is stubbornly becoming increasingly user-adversarial (advertising, constant intrusive updates, forced transition from your favorite browser to Microsoft Edge, etc.) and unintuitive (sometimes even counter intuitive) interface design, placement and inaccessible settings.

Well, delighting in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schadenfreude, I won’t complain. Microsoft is inadvertently helping me help transition many friends, family and colleagues to various flavors of Linux systems, namely Linux Mint (whichever desktop they prefer) and/or Pop!OS most of the time, but also occasionally Fedora or a particular flavor of Ubuntu.

I never recommend Arch or rolling release systems or immutable systems to first time Linux user so as to preemptively avoid additional layers of complexity, learning curve, downtime and troubleshooting.

SuperSpecialNickname,

Ever since Nadella took over it’s been going down to shit progressively

Andromxda,
@Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

It’s always been a pile of shit

SuperSpecialNickname,

Windows 7 was solid and didn’t treat you like an ad revenue.

amazing_uditbhardwaj5,
@amazing_uditbhardwaj5@mastodon.social avatar

@SuperSpecialNickname @Andromxda yep one of the best version of windows

SuperSpecialNickname,

That last version that was truly great. If it wasn’t unsupported I’d still be using it.

amazing_uditbhardwaj5,
@amazing_uditbhardwaj5@mastodon.social avatar

@SuperSpecialNickname I still miss the aero theme. It was the best.

lost_faith,

I am looking to move to linux, again, due to ALL the amazing work Steam is putting into gaming on linux. Much of my flat game library works on the test laptop, my streaming software has linux native install. The 1 issue holding me back at this point is my OG Vive screens not turning on, tho the laptop monitor shows my VR environment. Once I get over that hurdle my days of windows will be almost over.

Faydaikin, (edited )
@Faydaikin@beehaw.org avatar

I think that, regardless of brand, most users just want the most basic (almost blank slate) OS that can run the programs they choose to install.

And that is close to, if not completely, impossible to get if you don’t have a mind for Linux.

laurelraven,

I asked it how to get rid of it.

It decided my aggressive language was not okay and kept ending the “conversation” which only managed to piss me off even more.

If I want to curse at my f$king computer, I’m going to curse at my f$king computer. I paid for the damned thing, and it is a thing, not a person, I can yell at it all I want and not hurt it in any way so this policing of what we can say to it is all the more bizarre to me.

Gradually_Adjusting,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.ca avatar

Obedience module not detected, contractual obligations terminated

laurelraven,

It’s okay, I’ve already switched to Linux

tlf,

Why would they block that? I understand that a company might not want the reverse to happen but this just seems counterproductive

xyguy,

There’s a new proof of concept malware that when an AI processes it causes arbitrary code execution and spreads itself to everyone on the victims email list.

This requires no input from the user

Yes please put more of this crap into every crevice of the OS.

Zacryon,

You get AI tools shoved down your throat everywhere nowadays. Whether you want it and it’s useful or not.

Salvo,
@Salvo@aussie.zone avatar

Please don’t call them AI. They are “Language Learning Models” (or “Spicy Autocorrect” if you want to be cheeky).

Copilot is no more “intelligent” than Clippy from Microsoft Bob in 1995. It just appears to be to people who also have low intelligence.

soggy_kitty,

People who don’t understand how LLMs work aren’t necessarily of low intelligence.

Don’t get ignorance and intelligence mixed up. People of low intelligence do that

antonim,

Ehhhh, if you have expertise in ANY field outside of like programming, you can easily test various models and see that they produce a lot of crap. That doesn’t require you to understand how LLMs work exactly.

hobbsc,

The distinction is irrelevant and “AI” is what businesses and normal folks call this stuff. Just like the age old arguments that the media should say something like “cyber criminals” instead of “hackers” or “cloud” is just other people’s computers. LLM, GNU/spicy-auto-correct, whatever. To the populous it’s all “AI”.

Salvo,
@Salvo@aussie.zone avatar

mastodon.social/

Actually Indians.

Zacryon,

It’s not just text generating AI, like those transformer models, but also image classificators and generators, time series predictors, and a bunch of other stuff you get.

But yes, even though you seem not to like it, it is AI.

Copilot is no more “intelligent” than Clippy from Microsoft Bob in 1995.

I can’t share that experience.

It just appears to be to people who also have low intelligence.

That’s a bit condescending, don’t you think?

GlassHalfHopeful,
@GlassHalfHopeful@lemmy.ca avatar

I logged on to my father’s computer today to fix a few things for him and was immediately overwhelmed with all the Windows bloat. This includes copilot and… so… much… more… 😖

Mastersmacks,

One trick I found is disabling edge (renaming the install folder) basically disables half the bloat from even running, your copilot button just doesn’t even load in

averyminya,

Can you list the filepath?

GlassHalfHopeful,
@GlassHalfHopeful@lemmy.ca avatar

So weird that so much is integrated into a web browser.

letsgo,

Actually I quite like it…

Mastersmacks,

Its not the worst, and If I’m honest its not as annoying as the desktop view button, I hated that thing since day 1

Simon,

Windows power users? My ass. Any Windows power user knows you can just turn this shit off with group policy. I think what you mean is ‘we need something polarizing to write about hurrr’. That website is a joke.

Take your shitty garbage journalism back to buzzfeed you fucking hacks.

expr,

I mean, it still doesn’t change the fact that no one actually wants this shit.

Simon,

Sure. Let’s not rub each other off too hard over it though.

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