Andromxda,
@Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

You. don’t. need. a. dumb. phone. to fix your social media addiction

Basically every modern smartphone has features that allow you to restrict your usage of distracting apps/websites. You can recreate a minimalistic dumb phone on your smartphone using free & open source software or your operating system’s built-in tools/features. There are a few good videos about this:

shinratdr,
@shinratdr@lemmy.ca avatar

You don’t need to cut up your credit cards, never go to a bar or never visit a casino to curb your spending, drinking or gambling addictions either.

But is it hard to understand why people choose to? Not really. This is the same thing.

Andromxda,
@Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I understand why, but dumbphones aren’t good solutions for most people’s problems. They have many disadvantages, for example they don’t offer secure (encrypted) communications (except for the Punkt MP02 which has Signal support, but it also has other issues), you don’t get a proper keyboard, no touchscreen, and you often can’t even look something up on Wikipedia. You can’t listen to music/podcasts, use the phone for navigation or take notes. Most people just end up getting frustrated by a dumb phone, and switch back to a smartphone and continue wasting their time on social media. A decluttered smart phone with restrictions for social media usage is much more effective. The videos I linked in my original comment explain this pretty well.

SkybreakerEngineer,

Jokes on you, I doomscroll to avoid thinking about work

jasonlearst,

I recently discovered an alternative to these minimalist phones. On the iPhone I am able to setup “Focus” modes. You can tune which applications give notifications while in the focus mode. So when I’m in my work focus mode I block out notifications for all apps except Outlook and Teams. Then you can also adjust the focus mode to change your Lock Screen widgets and Home Screen layout. So you can prioritize the items you want to see.

Then additionally I setup screen time limits on social media sites like Instagram. I set a 30 min limit per day. Then if I want to bypass that limit I need to make a decision to do it.

I feel like these tools have let me wrestle back control of my device usage. Now I can’t get sucked into hours long Instagram scrolling sessions.

Andromxda,
@Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

This is pretty well explained in this video www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OybGwwGc20

jasonlearst,

Thanks for that link! I learned some new tricks.

TORFdot0,

The camera is too important for me to give up my smart phone, and I don’t want to carry a separate device just for taking photos/video.

Maybe if the came out with a feature phone that had a camera on par with a smartphone and supported syncing to google photos or immich or synology then I’d consider it.

Blisterexe,

You can get a normal android phone, then hit it in the head with a brick, remove googlr play services, don’t add an app store back, and get a minimalist launcher, the end result is what you’re looking for, and it becomes hard enough to get a new app on your phone, that its much easier to resist

BigAssZombie,

try parental app w/ a random short password

NaoPb,

This is why I’m looking for a dumb phone. Too much time wasted on doomscrolling.

Blisterexe,

Just get an android phone without google play services or microG, get a minimalist launcher, then only install the apps you need straight from the web

jbk,

“Just”

Blisterexe,

What do you mean? Most people already have a suitable android phone either in their pocket or in a closet, and a cheap one is significantly less expensive than the dumb phones that are sold to people who want to stop doomscrolling

Andromxda,
@Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar
NaoPb,

I was thinking about this after posting my comment.

I have some phones laying around that I can try to install a different OS on.

astrsk,
@astrsk@piefed.social avatar

Give me a semi-smartphone. All I want is a dumb phone that has high quality music streaming, GPS, Mail, RCS messaging, calling, Bluetooth, and a modern camera. No big screen, return to T9 typing on a keypad. Just something pocketable that can take good pictures and tackle basic communication in a reliable shell.

I even love the idea of the screen being at-best preview size for photos just for framing and general composition. Where you can’t really tell the quality until you look at them later on a computer.

Idk I’m rambling but after my last app purge I’m down to just 60 apps (which includes most of the built in ones). Still feels like too many since I’ve also cut my daily phone usage down to about 90m on average. I’m kinda tired of it all.

DannyMac,
@DannyMac@lemmy.world avatar

Ehh we can and should do better than T9. …but then the phone might start to become fun to use, drawing you back in… Bring back T9!

prashanthvsdvn,

Add flip phones and sliding QWERTY like the N95 to the list

RGB3x3,

I’ve been thinking the exact same thing. But then I think, “I need to be able to install apps like proton mail, my bank app, and Signal. But I NEED a web browser because I do a lot of personal business-related things on my phone. Well, now I’m back at just having a smartphone.”

I don’t know, I need all the functionality of a smartphone, but I want some kind of physical control to keep me off it until I actually need it for something. Mostly something that makes using it just difficult enough that it’s not worth using only because of boredom. And software controls are just too easy to turn off.

FelipeFelop,
@FelipeFelop@discuss.online avatar

This story has been popping up every few months for about the last decade. Usually prompted by someone with something to promote (a dumb phone, a book about downtime, some course )

kirk781,

Wasn’t there a minimal phone that made the buzz recently that was ironically, retailing for the cost of a mid range Android smartphone?

Cheradenine,
friend_of_satan,

One problem I always see with dumb phones is they’re like $500, which admittedly is pretty dumb.

nullPointer, (edited )

or you can practice what us ‘big people’ call: “self control”

Holzkohlen,

Oooh, this one has it all figured out. How do we solve obesity? Drug addictions? Gambling addictions? I bet I know your answer.

Thorny_Insight, (edited )

Jokes on them. I endlessly scroll on my computer while my smartphone mostly just acts as a phone/music player/navigation device.

vhstape,
@vhstape@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

This is so me. Got a dumb phone and slashed my mobile screen time. Laptop screen time doubled 😂

cosmicrookie,
@cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

Pretty sure i read about EU working on a ban for endless scrolling!

…europa.eu/…/new-eu-rules-needed-to-address-digit…

Jackthelad,

Lol. I’m sure this will definitely work.

tal,
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

“My vice was Twitter… I’m kind of a news junkie, and I love to refresh it all throughout the day, and sometimes argue with people online, I guess, so it was a bad habit,” explained Stults.

Along with his partner Daisy Krigbaum, they decided to adopt a less-screen-filled lifestyle and help others do the same. “Some people just can’t function with how addictive the smartphone currently is,” Stults said.

Daisy was the offscreen voice in this xkcd comic:

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls_2x.png

Mrkawfee,

I love this one.

vhstape,
@vhstape@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I’ve been using a Light Phone II as my daily driver since August, and I hope I never go back to my iPhone. The transition was pretty easy since I was already “off the grid”, but I do sometimes have to toss my iPhone in my bag for things like Uber or the Starbucks app.

TheFeatureCreature,
@TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve considered the Light Phone before but there are just some things I think it goes too far with such as lack of email and texted images. I consider these to be basic communication fundamentals and should be standard on dumbphones. It’s not like they’re closed-source software tied to specific companies.

vhstape,
@vhstape@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Honestly, I don’t mind the lack of email that much since I have always preferred writing on my computer. That said, I do hate the lack of image support. A low-res black-and-white image would be better than none at all…

whoreticulture,

Just set up an app blocker on your phone. There are some that are pretty intense, they work great.

evident5051,

You can consider getting the Qin F22 Pro.

jabathekek,
@jabathekek@sopuli.xyz avatar

but i want a slide out keybooaaarrddddd :_____________(

MrScottyTay,

I would love a phone with a slide out keyboard

pastermil,

Isn’t Light Phone II just an Android device?

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