excitingburp,

As opposed to the human-made brain melting videos?

hark,
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The only scary part about this is that youtube makes money off advertising to kids and that it’s so lucrative that people bother generating this dumb shit.

Wes_Dev,

Automated content farms to sell ads. So basically, instead of teams of people in Russian content farms like 5 Minute Crafts siphoning money from Google, the AI does it instead.

Another reason why advertising-based economies are stupid. It’s a race to the bottom, and every single content creator has to make their content worse and worse, with more and more ads, just to break even. Fucking podcasts have automatically inserted crap now, just shoved in randomly, based on your IP when you download them.

bartolomeo,

siphoning money from Google

How does that work?

Wes_Dev,

Pretty simple, actually. Content farms push as much media out as possible to get as much attention and views as they can. This generates ad revenue. Advertisers pay Google for the ads, Google pays content creators.

bartolomeo,

Oh wow. I didn’t know that.

Bleach7297,
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“Brain melting” and “Without parents knowing” are the only two inherently scary things in that headline.

Malfeasant,

FUD sells…

blazera,
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Im not a fan of AI content, but I wanna do a bit better than just old man yells at new thing. If the AI content was indistinguishable from human made there wouldnt be any outrage, how would we know? AI is distinguishable, and I think the main distinction is the lack of human goals in creating the content. AI is computer, it doesnt feel joy for creating, it doesnt have fun, it isnt trying to express itself, just mimicing expressions.

So Im watching some of these AI videos, and comparing to kids shows from before AI was a thing. It’s a lot of shared elements, and any given few seconds from the AI videos seems normal. But watching it scene to scene is bizarre. It’s really bad about continuity, and there’s no story whatsoever or any worldbuilding. Which you might not associate with kids shows, but they were present, just simplified along with everything else. Shows like Dora and Blues Clues had overarching quests for the characters every episode, a continuity of events to follow, and recurring elements to remember in the next episode. These are all good learning elements for developing brains I feel, Swiper shows up and that’s activating memories, he’s an obstacle to this continuity and needs dealing with, and how to deal with it was explained last time. The AI content Im seeing has none of this

Deceptichum,
@Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works avatar

Thats a very old generation of kids show, and they were somewhat educational.

Go back 2-3 years ago and watch the sort of mindless droll on YT, its human made but pure mindrot - zero plot, just sound effects, oddly paced scenes, bright catchy visuals, pop culture characters etc. This AI stuff cannot do any worse as we’d already turned children’s media into addictive algorithmic manipulation.

blazera,
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Im pretty sure all of that was AI too, at least algorithmic in some way. Like plugging in google trends as some twisted madlibs or something. That shit definitely wasn’t human either.

protist,

There are still plenty new children’s media options that aren’t hot garbage. Bluey, Miraculous Ladybug, and Spidey and his Amazing Friends are 3 of my son’s favorites, and all three have story arcs, characters with a bit of depth and moral fiber, and are in active production. There’s also all the PBS Kids content that values learning and modeling emotional regulation, hell even Nickelodeon has Blaze and the Monster Machine teaching kids about basic engineering concepts.

YouTube has been poison for children for over a decade, but it’s gotten progressively worse. I hesitate to judge others’ parenting, but when someone sets their 4 year old in front of an iPad with unrestricted YouTube access, it really lets you know what kind of parent they are

ArmokGoB,

This title is shit. They’re YouTube videos, not LSD.

Gutless2615,

Can’t be worse than pregnant Spider-Man and pregnant Hull get married to have Zelda’s baby while beating up Elsa or whatever the fuck was rotting kids brains like a decade ago

namelivia,

Wait, what? Sounds like something that belongs to DeviantArt, not YouTube

Deceptichum,
@Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works avatar

Look up ElsaGate. Very disturbing shit.

polarpear11,

They still have weird shit like that all over kids youtube. I forbade it in my house after seeing a video of a kid literally shooting their mom in the face. Before I was just blocking entire channels but after that… yeah no youtube kids in my house.

AnAngryAlpaca,

Don’t have any of that; except that youtube keeps showing me colorfull gambling ads in the style of a farmville game… before and between kids videos.

(this happens when playing youtube via chromecast on the lounge TV; i have adblockers on my computers)

deathbird,

Wasn’t that AI generated?

Gutless2615,

Nope. Just the product of good old fashioned degenerate meat bags

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  • PHLAK,
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    No, no, the real problem is video games… and Dungeons & Dragons… and the mall of course… and comic books… and…

    AngryCommieKender, (edited )

    That god awful mary-wanny! That’s what’s doing it!

    ^(pay no attention to the THC vape in my hand, that doesn’t exist, no, it’s for “medical reasons.” That’s it!)

    Wes_Dev,

    God, I want a THC vape. Had one once when I lost my job, apartment, roommate, etc, all at the same time.

    I couldn’t afford my overpriced-yet-shitty $2,000 apartment, plus utilities, by myself on any of the jobs I found. There was nothing to do but wait for a couple of weeks for family to come pick me up, so I said screw it and got a THC vape pen. It was the most relaxing two weeks I’ve ever had.

    The pen had a nice big cartridge of Charlotte’s Web. I used it A LOT. Woke up in the middle of the night at one point, still buzzed, and decided I should take a break from THC. I needed to sober up to handle adult crap, so I threw the thing away.

    Proud of myself for not letting myself become and addict, even though I was high at the time. But still miss it.

    Sibbo,

    Brain melting

    Abnorc,

    Back in my day, we only had access to face-melting content. I fear for children of the new age.

    Mastengwe,

    Can’t be worse than TikTok.

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  • NotAtWork,

    “We are all susceptible to the pull of viral ideas. Like mass hysteria. Or a tune that gets into your head that you keep humming all day until you spread it to someone else. Jokes. Urban legends. Crackpot religions. Marxism. No matter how smart we get, there is always this deep irrational part that makes us potential hosts for self-replicating information.” ― Neal Stephenson, Snow Crash

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  • WoahWoah,

    Who cares?

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  • WoahWoah,

    I meant about your preferences.

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  • NotAtWork,

    It’s a great book if you can get past that to the first line of the book.

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  • Duamerthrax, (edited )

    Ok, read 50 Shades then.

    The book is excellent and predictive of so much tech culture to come out shortly after.

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  • androogee,

    Far more worried about the ads than the AI generated videos tbh.

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  • Pretzilla,

    Link to a good example of a mind melting AI made video please so I can avoid it for science?

    (actually serious this time)

    Stern,
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    The Wired article OP was sourced from mentioned this channel - youtube.com/

    FunkPhenomenon,

    just looks like irritating kids content.

    VirtualOdour,

    It’s pretty fair quality kids stuff, nothing even close to the weirdness we used to get telletubbies, stop it and tidy up, clangers…

    My brain did not melt.

    BluesF,

    Yeah tbh this kind of weird low quality kids stuff has been around on YouTube for years. My sister used to subject me to it when she was little hahah.

    Thorny_Insight,

    When I was a kid in the early 2000’s we were vibing to a funny song about a famous pedophile, watching pictures of dead people on rotten.com and ofcourse porn on the late night tv. We also had candy resembling tobacco products as well as ones with racist names.

    I think new parents especially often seem to forget all the similar things they did as a child and then apply different standards to their own kids. Yeah, it’s not optimal, but they’re probably going to grow up just fine.

    frogfruit,

    Millennials have higher rates of mental illness than previous generations. We are far from fine.

    Thorny_Insight, (edited )

    There are multiple possible explanations for that. I don’t see any direct link between the kind of content we millenials consumed in our childhood and the apparent rise in the number of mental health cases. I’d be willing to bet that the time spent consuming said content plays a much bigger factor.

    frogfruit,

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  • Glitchington,
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    When I was younger I wasn’t sad because I was online, I was online because I was sad and felt out of place in reality.

    The cough isn’t the cause of the cold, it’s a symptom.

    Also, I gained more empathy the older I got. So you probably need a bigger data set than your own experiences.

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  • VirtualOdour,

    Yes but we can’t tell if that’s caused by being online, it’s possible you’d have had the same problems anyway or possibly worse. For all we know the internet helped you deal with your issues and without it you’d have ended up a serial killer.

    Life is just very complex.

    Glitchington,
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    I think it’s less the network’s fault, and more on where someone chooses to spend their time on the network. If you’re on Facebook, it is in their interest to piss you off so you stay and fight. But plenty of other tools exist to connect folks online without being manipulative.

    It’s like fire, nuclear energy, or most any other tool. Use it right and everyone benefits, use it wrong and people get hurt.

    frogfruit,

    Agreed, but we’re specifically talking about looking at depraved content on the Internet.

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  • SoleInvictus,
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    I’d imagine an increasingly hostile world economy coupled with a then-looming but now beginning climate crisis might have a huge impact there.

    GBU_28,

    Hard to believe this isn’t simply due to improved detection, reporting and treatment options.

    frogfruit,

    Gen X and boomers still go to the Dr and undergo depression screenings, yet Gen X has roughly half the rates of depression as gen z and millennials. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9934502/

    GBU_28,

    The key metric would be to review care detection and frequency at the same chronological age of participants, not simply today.

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  • GBU_28, (edited )

    No, do not write leading statements like that, it’s rude. Just ask me to clarify.

    I’m saying there’s.no point measuring millennial healthcare analytics vs older generations because millennials aren’t older yet (obviously). So point in time analytics aren’t valuable ( edit to my conversation, obviously they are useful) My point was to understand the health analytics of a cohort relative to care options, you must consider the same age band, no matter the year.

    So like " describe mental health detection among 20-30 yo’s across decade’s of history"

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  • GBU_28,

    It’s a statement you are assuming I made, which I contested.

    tym,

    Pretty sure that’s every generation in relation to the next: arapahoelibraries.org/…/generational-blame-a-brie…

    rbesfe,

    At least those horrible things required human effort to make, so there was a limited quantity. An unlimited supply of content that a human had no part in making is completely new territory

    Thorny_Insight,

    It’s not obvious to me why the non-human origin matters here. Eventually AI will get so good that you can’t even tell the difference, or if you can, it’s because it’s so high quality.

    In my mind the meat of the issue is the amount of time we spend watching that content, and less so who made it.

    papertowels,

    Non human origin matters because it’s easy to flood the field with this stuff.

    If finding quality videos becomes a needle in a haystack amidst ai generated bullshit, each looking to passively earn a few bucks, overall quality of life will suffer as the ouroboros eats its tail.

    Fredselfish,
    @Fredselfish@lemmy.world avatar

    I remember candy cigarettes. My favorite was the one that also double as gum. But guess I miss the racist candy? Or did I not get the racism?

    Default_Defect, (edited )
    @Default_Defect@midwest.social avatar

    But guess I miss the racist candy?

    I don’t know it either, but I feel like when someone clarifies, I’ll be like “Oh… OHH! That.”

    Hule,

    This one comes to mind

    Negro cukorka

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  • Thorny_Insight, (edited )

    These were called “Neekerinsuukko” which translates into “Nigger’s Kiss” and they were sold under that name well over into the 2000’s. It’s basically a chocolate egg with a flat waffle bottom and filled with this white creamy filling.

    I’m not sure if you can actually call that “racist” candy as I don’t think whoever made it had any bad intentions behind it. It’s just the name of it that aged a little badly. Nowdays these are just called “Kisses”

    Flyspeck,

    They were called chocolate babies in the 80s/90s and think they still go by that name but are no longer made by a major manufacturer

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  • AngryCommieKender,

    Wait, are you talking about some variation of candy cigarettes that I have never seen, but would be insanely jealous if they existed, or the flavored ones Camel used to have? Cause yeah chocolate mint Camels were awesome. Never liked the orange flavored ones, but that seemed to just be me in my friend group.

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  • Churbleyimyam,

    My kids won’t have access to youtube (or even the internet) for as long as I can make that happen. If they absolutely MUST watch something on a screen it will be downloaded nature documentaries, episodes of Sesame Street, or maybe really old Disney animations.

    Pretzilla, (edited )

    The really old Disney stuff is loaded with canceled everything just FYI

    Give them DaVinci and a camera and let them make their own

    Churbleyimyam, (edited )

    I haven’t re-watched any with that in mind… I mostly just remember funky animals and singing “oh delally oh delally, golly what a day” and “oobidoo I wanna be like you-oo-oo” with my own dad.

    But yeah, DIY is a great idea!

    I wanna watch something

    man ffmpeg

    Zak,
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    Here’s a video of a TED talk from 2018 talking about manually-generated brain-melting videos for kids. Teens and adults are watching variants of this crap now too.

    phoneymouse, (edited )

    They’re generating $10,000 a month and that’s enough for them to work from a private helicopter? Something seems off… lol!

    $10,000/month is $120,000/year. That’s a decent salary, but it isn’t private helicopter money. Also, how enjoyable is it to work from a helicopter anyway?

    Socsa,

    Oh good, more stupid moral panic, exactly what we needed.

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