design_law, to random
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The transcript from a February hearing in one of those EDVA cases is now out.

The judge clearly has some concerns: "while, certainly, the courts are here to facilitate the voluntary resolution of matters through settlements and licenses, it is not appropriate to abuse the court's process by creating and pursuing litigation in which people don't have a fair opportunity to get to the merits of them."

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.vaed.545461/gov.uscourts.vaed.545461.202.0.pdf

design_law,
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The plaintiff dismissed the complaining defendant, so the judge seems to think they couldn't rule on the issues that defendant raised. I'm not sure about that, since the defendant apparently raised concerns about "the litigation as a whole." But in any case, it's interesting that the judge went out of his way to make these comments about the model.

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Following Judge Gottshall's decision on joinder, (https://mastodon.social/) Vogt has filed an amended complaint in the Bailie case:

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ilnd.456489/gov.uscourts.ilnd.456489.33.0.pdf

The plaintiff alleges only copyright infringement, but makes liberal use of .

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A pro se complaint, alleging design patent infringement, with an unsealed Schedule A and an apparently misnamed patent (the patent named in the allegations doesn't match the attached document or how it's described):

https://www.scribd.com/document/735968445/Zhu-v-Schedule-A-Complaint

https://patents.google.com/patent/USD813317S1/en?oq=country:US+type:DESIGN+D813317

attached patent: D1,020,230

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Oh, this is potentially big. Dyson denied profits in a trademark case. At oral argument, two judges "pushed back on the notion that [Dyson] was at all entitled to a profits award in the case."

https://www.law360.com/ip/articles/1840545?nl_pk=2e71aa9c-c8f8-43ff-9d5a-fafec61b2085

Of course, oral arguments can mislead as to the way a case will ultimately go.

But if the panel goes against Dyson/GBC, that would be a big deal.

design_law,
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Note that the disgorgement provision of the Lanham Act expressly addresses burden shifting (unlike the Copyright Act and § 289 of the Patent Act): "In assessing profits the plaintiff shall be required to prove defendant’s sales only; defendant must prove all elements of cost or deduction claimed."

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/1117

So this provision provides the best support for the "we can't prove their profits so give us the whole account" argument.

design_law,
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And the underlying decision (by Judge Seeger): https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ilnd.422932/gov.uscourts.ilnd.422932.51.0.pdf

"The Court declines the request to award profits because Plaintiff offered evidence of revenue, not profits. Revenue and profits are not the same thing. The Court declines the invitation to assume that all of the revenue equals profits."

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In copyright case (before Judge Kennelly) a group of defendants accuses the plaintiff of all kinds of misconduct, including bad faith withholding of TRO documents and judge shopping:

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ilnd.457543/gov.uscourts.ilnd.457543.44.0.pdf

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Okay, so I don't use the f-word lightly but:

This is a shockingly frivolous design patent infringement claim:

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ilnd.457552/gov.uscourts.ilnd.457552.36.0.pdf

Yes, it's in a case.

The TRO documents are still under seal so I don't know what the other claims look like.

But this is not inspiring confidence.

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Another good joinder decision, this time out of SDFL.

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This is also a good reminder that permissive joinder is a matter of discretion. Judges don't have to allow mass joinder in cases.

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Another good joinder from the NDIL (Gottschall, J.):

"Without a limiting principle, adopting the approach taken in Bose would undermine a consistent line of cases in this district holding that 'Rule 20(a)’s requirement for a common transaction or occurrence is not satisfied where multiple defendants are merely alleged to have infringed the same patent or trademark.'”

Bailie v. Schedule A No. 1:24-CV-2150, 2024 WL 2209698, at *4 (N.D. Ill. May 15, 2024).

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ilnd.456489/gov.uscourts.ilnd.456489.31.0.pdf

held, however, that “joinder can be based not just on ‘transactions,’ but also on ‘occurrences.’ ” Id at 516. The court reasoned that, due to the nature of the internet, “an ‘occurrence’ of mass harm easily can be inflicted even if there is no express ‘transactional’ coordination among the attackers.” Id. at 516. The uncoordinated “swarm” of infringers of Bose’s trademarks, the court held, constituted the relevant occurrence for Rule 20(a)(2) purposes. 4 See id. at 516–17. This court agrees with Bose Corp.’s analysis of the transaction requirement of Rule 20(a)(2) but finds the reasoning of Judges Chang and Lee in two separate cases brought by the same plaintiff to be the more persuasive approach to the remainder of the joinder analysis. 5 See Estée Lauder Cosmetics Ltd. v. Schedule A Defs. (Estée Lauder II), No. 20-cv-845, order at 4–10 (N.D. Ill. June 22, 2020) (Lee, J.) (ECF No. 40); Estée Lauder I, 334 F.R.D. 187–90 (Chang, J). As Judge Lee explained, the analysis proffered in Bose “suffers from the absence of a limiting principle . . . .” Estee Lauder II, No. 20-cv-845, order at 6.

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I listened in to another hearing today as I've found a way to dial in internationally for free. 🎉🎉🎉

The judge made me laugh so much. He suggests to a bunch of defendants that appeared, that they should just email the lawfirm as they are reasonable and probably dismiss them if they e sold nothing and have removed products from sale.

Hahahah the lawfirm are reasonable ...... Do the judges not get that they're only reasonable for 💲💲💲

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SDFL judge orders Tesla to "file a Notice of Related Action by the close of business on May 13, 2024 identifying the four other related actions pending in the Southern District of Florida, along with a brief explanation why those claims and defendants were not included in the instant [] case."

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68417469/tesla-inc-v-the-individuals-partnerships-and-unincorporated/

In response, the plaintiff explains how it grouped defendants as follows:

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.665250/gov.uscourts.flsd.665250.34.0.pdf

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This part, though, is really something. Basically: "We want to sue 1,907 people and we filed them in five separate cases to spare YOU, THE COURT the burden of 1,907 separate cases."

Oh, please.

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These reactions make me worry that this Federal Circuit decision will push more patent owners to use litigation instead of APEX:

https://www.law360.com/articles/1835632?e_id=d2e722f6-7363-44e9-a59a-96c018035cd9

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So, we're doing an IP event at my new school tomorrow. It will be the first time I'll talk about the shakedown scheme while I am physically in the NDIL. Here we go....

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Here's the order from the hearing @SADLady mentioned yesterday:

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.665177/gov.uscourts.flsd.665177.44.0.pdf

Note that the dismissals are "without prejudice," which means those defendants can be sued again.

The judge also set a hearing on the preliminary injunction for 6/10 at 2 p.m. Eastern.

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idea: Does the "swarm" joinder theory set forth in the Bose case make sense for cases? If so, what kind of showing should be required of the plaintiff?

Bose Corp. v. Partnerships & Unincorporated Associations Identified on Schedule "A", 334 F.R.D. 511 (N.D. Ill. 2020).

See also Roadget v. Schedule A, 2024 WL 1858592, at *1 (N.D. Ill. Apr. 29, 2024) (distinguishing Bose).

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Well helloooo

It's been a while. All things went quiet.

And then I woke up and found hundreds of people being sued again all panicking. The hearing says it's an in person hearing too 🙄

Florida, and Tesla!

This tweet / x or whatever the word is, has aged ...

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The substance of the design patent infringement claims are not yet publicly-available but, judging from the prayer for relief....I'm not optimistic as to their quality:

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ilnd.454648/gov.uscourts.ilnd.454648.1.0.pdf

(For anyone who doesn't know, this allegation makes two deep, fundamental errors of law. You can't get both profits AND damages and profits cannot be trebled.)

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