cautiousguy_eu, to RussiaUkraineWar French
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elCelio, to italy Italian
@elCelio@mastodon.uno avatar

and are going to retire soon their combat aircraft Panavia Tornado fleets.

Why aren't they considering to transfer them to Ukraine?

They are similar to F16, and they are also configured to use missiles.


amayer,
@amayer@rheinneckar.social avatar

@elCelio "the #USA will not provide aircraft"

Well, why not?
As for 'don't care', there's always the option to pay those countries. Most of them care for money.

I'm not saying don't provide other planes. Just that it will be difficult for Ukraine to implement the necessary logistics for yet another new system, especially one as sophisticated as a modern combat aircraft. It has been more than half a year already, to do that for F16s.

elCelio,
@elCelio@mastodon.uno avatar

@amayer

well both F16 and Tornado are 50 years old...

yes I think money is a factor: buying the aircraft will cost a lot of money, and nobody is going to pay for them.

the US won't provide them, because Congress didn't authorize it. and I don't know if US Congress will ever pass another aid bill.

on the other hand Tornados are being dismissed right now with the arrival of F35, moreover Tornados are an European system so they don't need the US for maintenance and support.

schizanon, to Ukraine
JSharp1436, to Ukraine
@JSharp1436@mstdn.social avatar

:twitter:

🔴 Overnight, and missiles in the hands of well practiced Ukrainians rained over Russian Crimea destroying a variety of Russian garbage.

  • 2 Russian ships (Azov and Yamal)
  • 2 Su-27 jets
  • Russian communications hub
  • oil infrastructure
  • a military base, eliminating 40 Russians

Ukrainenews, to random
@Ukrainenews@mastodon.social avatar

140 aircrafts and helicopters have been deployed by the occupiers in .

This means 140 targets for . 😎

🇺🇦

theseeduneed, to random
@theseeduneed@mastodon.social avatar

Watch a / entering the Russian Black Sea Fleet headquartes in

Video from @ Osinttechnical on Xitter.

video/mp4

eva_chaos,
@eva_chaos@mastodon.social avatar

@VikingChieftain @theseeduneed
Sh*t's always on fire in russia. Probably feels like home.
¯_(ツ)_/¯

joaocosta,

@VikingChieftain

🤣🤣🤣

@theseeduneed

chrisschmitz, to Ukraine
@chrisschmitz@nafo.army avatar

Ukrainian Forces destroyed the Russian Headquarters in Melitopol this morning.
This is footage of the missle en route, I would go out and put high confidence ID this as StormShadow/ScalpEG.

Footage has been reprocessed and 10x slowed down.

video/mp4

brennholzverleih,

@chrisschmitz Amazing what they have achieved with those missiles.
And a shame that Germany still refuses to deliver Taurus.

hanse_mina, to Ukraine

Here is a long thread about conventional missile fuzes. It explains why Taurus offers a qualitative edge over Storm Shadow/SCALP-EG when engaging certain targets, and why it’s one of the most advanced conventional weapons currently in the arsenals of Western states.

Full thread: https://nitter.nl/FRHoffmann1/status/1690731787465506816

pixelcode, to random
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Wow, is apparently already using those long-range cruise missiles whose delivery was just announced!

@randahl https://mastodon.social/@randahl/110366603902848645

ottona,

@pixelcode @randahl i'd be much surprised by such an immediate use. storm shadows are air-launched, requiring - i presume - an adaption of ukr jets and training of pilots. i doubt this to have happened secretly in the past - but who knows. 😉

conflict_mirror, to random

When Russian used nerve agent on 🇬🇧, territory in 2018 to target 's opponents living in Britain, they just basically laughed at 🇬🇧 protests.

They are not laughing now 🚀💥

For Russia, providing the rockets means crossing the red line! (Redline°N 8 😂) Wait for Nuclear threats in 3,2,1... 🤡

UkraineNews, to random

This is the beginning of the step .

After sent missless to , will soon receive many similar missles from NATO countries ⌛👀

as we saw as , and Tanks

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