ChillDude69

@ChillDude69@lemmynsfw.com

LEMMY ALLOWS ME TO HAVE A SCREENNAME THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN 15 YEARS AGO, ON REDDIT. I AM CHILLDUDE69 AND I AM FREAKIN’ HAPPY ABOUT IT!

Yes, I’m screaming all that. Capslock is still cruise control for cool, y’all.

Peace.

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ChillDude69,

Yeah, whatever. I’m still not wrong.

Like I said to someone else, in this thread: if you give Sony your real email address that you use for your real personal shit and your real business shit, you deserve for your info to be tracked. Scientists track dumb animals all the time and there’s nothing wrong with that.

Sony isn’t asking for your fucking SSN and your birth certificate. They’re asking for ANY RANDOM EMAIL ADDRESS THAT YOU HAVE ACCESS TO, SO YOU CAN CLICK AN ACTIVATION LINK.

I’m not even sure they want you to do that. They might not even ask for activation. I haven’t done it, so I don’t know.

I only haven’t done it because I don’t play Helldivers 2. Not because I have some kind of principled objection to making a free web account.

I mean, do you realize how many free web accounts we’ve all made in our lives? Between the years 1997 and 2012, I probably made LITERALLY TENS OF THOUSANDS OF FREE WEB ACCOUNTS. Now you guys are gonna draw a line in the sand for me, and say “hey, now…don’t make any more of those, or you’re a corporate shill.”

Fine. Whatever. I guess I’m a shill. I’m not going to stop making free accounts for internet shit. That behavior is literally part of my culture.

EDIT: I think I’m going to go ahead and make myself a PSN account, right now. Even though I don’t play any Sony games that require one. I’m just doing it to make you guys seethe some more.

ChillDude69,

The tldr version = people are blowing a gasket, because a game published by Sony is requiring people to create a free account for their online gaming service, even if they bought the game through Steam (the Steam platform has nothing to do with Sony).

I hold the opinion that it’s not any kind of a big fucking deal to spend 120 seconds giving Sony an email address that you only use for making free web accounts.

Other people are choosing to absolutely lose their fucking minds, talkin’ about boycotting and whatever. And calling me a corporate shill.

They’re mostly kids, I assume.

ChillDude69, (edited )

They saw this groundswell of potential players to add to their huge database of people to market to, and said “we’re getting those email addresses”

See, this is the salient point, right here.

The correct response to this action is “LOL, sure. You can have my protonmail account that I only use to sign up for free shit, anyway.”

Checkmate. Internet 1, Sony 0.

But instead, we get all this shit-flinging, foot-stomping, childish nonsense.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, signing up for all the shit they ask us to sign up for, in an ORGANIZED WAY, could actually change the whole situation, for the better. Here’s the plan that should be enacted:

  1. Nobody gets screeching mad. Angry people behave predictably.
  2. Everyone reminds each other to ONLY USE THROWAWAY ADDRESSES TO SIGN UP FOR CORPORATE SHIT.
  3. Everyone reminds each other to NEVER ENGAGE WITH ANY MAILING LISTS OR OTHER BULLSHIT THAT YOU GET, ON ANY OF THOSE THROWAWAY ADDRESSES.
  4. Stick to that shit, for EVERYTHING. Don’t try and stop people from asking for your stupid throwaway email. Don’t threaten anybody with boycotting. Just continue giving out the completely worthless email addresses.
  5. Sooner or later, it becomes apparent that the majority of email addresses that are being collected in this manner are basically worthless.
  6. Consequently, the value of these email addresses plummets, both as a tradeable commodity and as a means of mining further data.
  7. Corporations slowly stop trying to track people via email.
ChillDude69,

Absolutely good advice. In fact, I’d just replied to another person, basically outlining how a consistent plan to only give out throwaway email addresses could change everything, by making those vast collections of email addresses worthless, on the corporate data-trading market.

ChillDude69, (edited )

their data is being harvested

WHAT DATA??? They don’t have any power to mine your data, here! They will only get what you give them. AND YOU DON’T HAVE TO GIVE THEM ANYTHING VALUABLE!

As I keep saying: the correct response isn’t getting mad. The correct response is to give the corporation a throwaway email address.

The smart move isn’t taking your ball and going home. The smart move is STUFFING THEIR CORPORATE MAW FULL OF THROWAWAY PROTONMAIL ADDRESSES THAT WON’T BE WORTH A PENNY TO ANYBODY!!!

Kids don’t give a fuck about making a new account

You say that, but look at what various people are asking, in this situation.

Sony is asking for any email address, HOPING you give them a real one, but without any power to make you do that.

I’m asking for people to give Sony nothing but throwaway email addresses that you don’t care about.

Others are asking THESE KIDS TO STOP PLAYING A GAME THEY LIKE.

Can you look me in my faceless, digital cyber-persona and tell me that these kids will continue to boycott a game they enjoy?

You know they won’t. They’re hyped up and mad, right now. They won’t be, in a few weeks, and they’ll start crawling back to that game they already bought.

BUT MAYBE WE COULD USE THEIR ANGRY MOMENT, RIGHT NOW, TO CONVINCE THEM TO CREATE NEW EMAIL ACCOUNTS.

Once they do that, and they give Sony those accounts, it’s done! The damage has been done to the godforsaken corpo data mining machine.

I don’t think I’m wrong, here.

ChillDude69,

For a while now, I’ve been telling people that this screenname is aspirational.

That’s basically the truth of the matter.

ChillDude69,

EXACTLY.

And I mean, unlike the Hogwarts Legacy situation, this shit has a simple and 100 percent effective remedy.

Sony’s asking for everyone’s email address? Okay. EVERYONE give them throwaway email addresses, and NEVER interact with any of their mailing list garbage, or do anything else with those PSN accounts.

Let them have a huge list of completely worthless email addresses. There is no downside to letting them choke on that shit.

Like I said in another comment, there should be a continued campaign of everyone ALWAYS giving out throwaway email addresses that they never use to do anything other than sign up for the free shit, and nothing else.

Keep that up for long enough, and eventually the value of these bulk lists of email addresses will plummet to functionally zero. And that will mean less corporate nonsense, at least of that kind. And less attempts to hack companies for their email lists. I mean, why commit a federal crime, to obtain worthless data?

ChillDude69,

There’s a huge back-and-forth going on right now, with people claiming Sony changed the fine print, and so it is bait-and-switch, and it just devolves into absolute fucking nonsense. It’s like on South Park, when the crowd of townspeople are all yelling “RABBLE-RABBLE-RABBLE-RABBLE.”

Screaming is cathartic but doesn’t effect change; you need action for that.

Exactly. And in this case, we can all have our cake and eat it, too. My point about Hogwarts was that people would still have to make a decision about buying it or not. But with Helldivers 2, there’s ABSOLUTELY NO REASON FOR A BOYCOTT.

We all just have to give Sony email addresses that we don’t care about. That will harm Sony’s PR bullshit-artists, while continuing to reward the ACTUAL ARTISTS who made this game.

I mean, I saw people on Reddit talking about how Sony’s response will be to make sure Helldivers 3 never happens. Well, if these people succeed in organizing a boycott of Helldivers 2, that IS TOTALLY WHAT WILL HAPPEN. Do they think Sony will give another dumptruck full of money to this studio, if they know the next game won’t sell?

People are acting like it’s the principle of the thing, because “Sony lied to us.” Even if that’s true, it doesn’t matter. Corporations are always going to lie to you. When the lie is “maybe we technically said we didn’t need you to give us any random email address, but now we’ve decided we do need an email address,” just give them the stupid email address.

Take the win. It will literally cost them money to store that worthless data.

ChillDude69, (edited )

they’ll ban you for using a VPN to create an account

I assume that means they’ll ban people who play on PS5 through a VPN. That’s not ideal, but that doesn’t apply in this situation. In this case, you just have to make a PSN account, then connect it to your copy of Helldivers 2 ONE SINGLE TIME.

If I’m wrong, then that does suck. I’ll admit that.

As for the TOS, who fucking gives a shit? “Ohhh nooooooo, they LIED TO US! A corporation LIED to us!”

Yeah, no shit. All companies are going to lie to you. All people who do business with you are going to lie to you. All random people you meet a few times are going to lie to you. All your friends are going to lie to you. All your family is going to lie to you. Everyone you ever love or fuck is going to lie to you. LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE PERSON YOU WILL EVER MEET IS GOING TO LIE TO YOU.

Get that through your head. Or, to put it more bluntly, grow the fuck up.

Knowing that everybody lies, it’s TRULY a matter of choosing which lies you’re really going to get your nads in a twist about.

Setting aside the people who might have region-based problems, literally every other person can just GIVE SONY A THROWAWAY EMAIL ADDRESS.

Getting Sony to store everyone’s worthless email addresses is, if anything, an expense for them. There is no downside, for us.

TAKE THE FUCKING WIN.

ChillDude69,

LOLOL no.

Prove that shit. There is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY that Sony can demand a photo ID from you. I mean, the Allies fucking won the war with Japan. Did you not get that memo, somehow?

Get out of here with your lying nonsense.

ChillDude69, (edited )

I’ll be goddamned. Now that I think about it, this must be because of that anti-porn law that you’ve got, over there. They’re somehow applying it to game services, too.

But then, like, don’t blame Sony for following your laws. How is that fair? If you gave your freedom away, that’s your own fault. Sony can’t change what the UK government requires.

EDIT: lol, ask your king to fix it, peasant

EDIT 2: I live in Texas, and they just enacted an anti-porn law, here. I don’t like it. It’s objectively stupid, and won’t protect anyone from anything. But it’s not worded in such a way that you have to present an ID to Sony, to make a gaming account. So, again, your stupid law is your own fault. It’s incredibly dishonest to blame Sony for problems you created for yourselves.

ChillDude69,

Here’s what this comes down to.

I will freely admit that it really does suck for Sony to require people in countries that can’t make a PSN account to…just fuck off, I guess?

But I know you WON’T admit that it’s fine for everyone ELSE to just make a throwaway account.

For some reason, you consider 120 seconds of typing an email address into a text box and clicking an activation link to be some kind of ridiculous bar to clear. I just don’t get it. Give them a throwaway email and get on with your fucking life, goddamn.

ChillDude69,

There’s no launcher involved. You make a PSN account ONE TIME, then you LINK THAT ACCOUNT to your fucking game.

No launchers. No extra services. No nothing.

Stop complaining about make-believe shit that only exists inside your own head.

ChillDude69,

And?

What’s the fucking problem? Like I said to someone else, I have probably made 300 email accounts since 1997, and I’ve probably used them to make ACTUAL TENS OF THOUSANDS of free web accounts, for shit on the internet.

Why would it bother me to make some more? It’s literally part of my culture. What is there to be so fucking mad about?

ChillDude69,

Someone steals your account

…and?

Who gives a shit? They’re going to get my 0 dollars worth of Playstation Bucks that I’m never going to put in there?

They’re going to play my other PSN games that I have on there? Except I don’t have a single one of those?

They’re going to fuck with my Helldivers 2 account? OH WAIT, THEY CAN’T DO THAT EITHER, BECAUSE THEY’D STILL ALSO NEED TO HAVE ACCESS TO MY STEAM ACCOUNT. The two accounts get linked. You still do all the game shit through Steam.

There is NO RISK, here. The only thing that could possibly happen would be someone spams my throwaway Protonmail account with nonsense spam. And I don’t care about that.

ChillDude69,

So many people have reading problems, these days. It’s genuinely sad.

ChillDude69,

Lots of people with a sub-3rd-grade reading level, running around on the Web. It’s getting terrifying. Way more so than Sony asking for your email address.

But which of those two things is everyone shitting their pants about?

ChillDude69,

Technically true, since I don’t play that game. But I actually understand that the game in question is designed to have a lot of crowd-directed gameplay. If the player-base hollows out, it actually will negatively affect a lot of the people who are playing it.

ChillDude69,

Someone’s got a less extreme opinion than you? Well, it’s 2024. They must be a literally paid-off shill.

Get out of my face with that shit, man. I get more pro-giant-meteor every fucking month.

ChillDude69, (edited )

using a throwaway email for any accounts you actually use

When I say “throwaway,” I don’t mean “I forgot about it, and I no longer have access to it, and I picked a really stupid name and password.”

I mean: “this is not the same email that I use to do my primary banking and contact my grandmother.”

I have two-factor authentication set up for everything that supports it. I just looked it up, and PSN supports it. Yes, that doesn’t mean it’s immune to being hacked, but my use of a “throwaway” email address doesn’t do ANYTHING to increase the odds of my account being hacked, for anything.

If you won’t admit that, I don’t care to discuss this with you, any further.

ChillDude69,

Uh-huh. How many is “a lot,” in this context? More than 500? Because the Fortune 500 list of companies only has 500 companies on it.

That means there are 500 CEOs out there, who could make the argument that their time is so valuable that they can’t spare a few seconds of it, to create some free accounts for some shit that they’re using.

Let’s be honest: you’re NOT one of those people. Just shut up and create the free fucking accounts. You’ve already wasted SO much more time, throwing a fucking tantrum over this shit.

Grow. The. Fuck. Up.

ChillDude69,

Ahhh, but that’s just UNACCEPTABLE CORPORATE SHILL BEHAVIOR, according to all these other clowns.

According to these assholes, the only reasonable response is to throw a shit-tossing tantrum, until the children of these particular game developers have all actually starved to death. That’ll teach 'em to mildly inconvenience some people.

ChillDude69,

Like I said to someone else, if the citizens of the UK chose to vote for shitty politicians, they should blame themselves for voting stupidly and their politicians for enacting stupid policy.

Nobody should blame Sony for obeying the law.

But that’s what people are doing. Because people are fucking stupid.

ChillDude69,

I will simply repeat myself. Concentrate really hard and try to read all the words, this time:

SONY DID NOT MAKE THOSE LAWS. SONY IS ONLY OBEYING THOSE LAWS. DON’T BLAME JAPANESE PEOPLE FOR BRITISH LAWS.

Are you okay? What the fuck would make you think that Japanese people control British laws? They were on the LOSING side of World War 2, remember?

ChillDude69,

If anyone can tolerate full-contact Klingon nookie, it’s a former Borg.

We all know she only goes halfway to full force with Tom, and he still probably gets all kinds of contusions and cuts. And he can’t just step into an alcove and regenerate that shit. Dermal regenerators and hyposprays will only get you so far.

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