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It’s almost like we’re under an economic system that perpetuates itself at the expense of literally every single person on Earth, and we would all be better off if we abolished it.

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It could be simply obscure like you say, but the absence of a network doesn’t guarantee it’s that easy to hack.

They could use a checksum and your trick would invalidate the card until you figured out the correct algorithm, which would require a new visit to the laundromat for every new attempt, so basically impractical.

That or the card is just simply encrypted, which would make it impossible to interpret. It would be easy to implement too because the shared secret is between machines that are all physically controlled by the laundromat.

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Oh yeah, that’s true, so you wouldn’t have destroyed the card, but it’s not a useful hack if they’ve done even the most basic security measures.

That said, I would be fascinated to know what was on that card. I’d give it pretty good odds of having absolutely no security measures whatsoever.

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Well that’s the thing, you don’t need a lot. You’re handing out these cards and people walk out the door with them, so you can’t trust they’re not going to mess with them. They don’t need to be walking around with a writer, you need one person to have access - either own one or have one at work or a university lab - and they can make as many cards as they want to give to their friends. Then they could use your business for years and get thousands of dollars of free service without you ever knowing.

That’s the real threat here I think - a poor university student with a technical degree challenging themselves to cheat the system and help out their friends. I mean it’s probably not going to happen, but a business owner who’s aware of this attack vector could spend the time to get a basic encryption system going that’s practically unbreakable.

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Wow repressing a population under the pretext of fighting terrorists only radicalises that population. We certainly couldn’t have predicted this based on millennia of examples.

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I’m not going to dispute your clearly superior knowledge of basketball statistics, and those are all remarkable parallels, but I think it’s more likely they were referring to the helicopter crash.

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Where on the internet is the anti-AI crowd at large talking about divine sparks of creativity? I am the only person I’ve seen saying that the only way you get an AI that can truly replace workers is by birthing a new intelligence and then it is wrong to enslave it. I didn’t know there were others!

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I mean this is exactly it, right? If instead of posting a new job, you canvass the people who applied months ago, then anyone who says yes has been out of work for months and will probably accept whatever shitty wages and conditions you offer. You are guaranteed a strong bargaining position.

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They don’t have the right to emancipation though. Like they are literally chattel. Weird how that part of personhood was overlooked, almost like the law was made ad-hoc to give their owners as much power as possible and not according to any real set of principles.

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Yeah, this is fucking rank. Even the setup is weirdly objectifying then they gotta make the punchline “haha I killed her and raped her corpse”.

This meme hates women so much.

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Beau of the Fifth Column has a great way of dealing with this sort of bigoted joke actually, “Huh? I don’t get it. What’s funny about that? What’s the joke?”

And just like… watch them realise they can’t explain it without sounding like a monster.

And to anyone who would say that jokes are like frogs, you can’t dissect them without killing them: you’ve never seen a good comedian break down a joke. It is hilarious, it’s all in the telling. If you need to rely on shock to get your laughs then you’re not actually funny. You fell into the shock-jock trap of “oh that got a reaction; that must be funny”, not realising that people also laugh when they’re uncomfortable, and all you’re doing is being an asshole.

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No, that’s not the joke. What’s the joke, can you explain it please?

Edit: anyone downvoting this without explaining the joke isn’t actually edgy; you’re just cowards

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That’s one way to say you have no confidence in your ability to explain anything.

It’s not that deep: what’s the joke? Can you explain it without sounding like an asshole? Sounds like you just admitted you can’t.

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I’m asking a question politely, but to be sealioning I’d have to be disingenuous about it. This is a serious question. Explain the joke, please.

If you have a genuine answer I’m willing to hear it, but so far nobody has even tried.

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So literally, “haha he killed her and raped the corpse” except you added a bunch of condescending overexplaining to it.

Like… you realise you sound like an asshole, right? That’s my point.

Also preemptively deciding that me disagreeing with you automatically makes you right because you predicted your explanation wouldn’t satisfy me is just A-tier bullshit.

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Not if you plan to rape the corpse, which this person apparently did. Sorry, that’s not an explanation, that’s a new joke. It was pretty good, by the way, but it’s not what I’m asking for.

And the way you “play” russian roulette is as a torture method with a prisoner. That’s where it comes from, and there is no established way to “play” unless you’re about to tell me you’re reading from the official rulebook of the International Russian Roulette Association. If you’re going to try to ground this thing in reality that doesn’t work because it was never grounded in reality.

Also, I’m not even saying this joke isn’t funny. It made me chuckle for a second, but if you think about it for like three seconds it treats the woman as a prop on so many levels. The woman in this story has no agency whatsoever, even when she’s offering sex in the setup it’s just a weird incel fantasy that would never happen.

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I never said this joke wasn’t funny, I said it hates women. It made me laugh for a second, but then in the following two seconds I said, “oh, ew”. Hating women is just so normalised in our society that it gets a pass under the banner of “edgy humour”.

And the reason I wasn’t swayed by the explanation is because it was essentially the same as mine. None of it is new information. You admitted my explanation is correct when you acknowledged that I clearly understood the joke.

So yeah, like I suspected, I’m not missing something here that makes this joke less misogynistic. Noone is telling me my characterisation of “haha he killed her and raped the corpse” is wrong, because it obviously isn’t.

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Yes, I don’t think anyone disagrees with you here. IMO, the rule of thumb is, “Would it be equally funny if the genders were swapped?”, and IMO, the answer is “yes” in this case, because the joke doesn’t rely on sexism.

This is a good rule of thumb, and I think where the joke actually lies. See, it relies on the viewer’s familiarity with the Patrick Bateman image, where it’s suddenly recontextualised as an image of a man having sex with a corpse. That works because the popular image only focusses on the man and the woman is so depersonalised that there is nothing to indicate whether she’s even alive.

The question about whether it would work with the genders swapped depends on whether an equally popular image-of-a-woman-sexually-dominating-a-man-who-is-so-devoid-of-personhood-that-he-could-be-dead exists, and the answer is no, of course not. The man sexually dominating a woman who lacks agency is pervasive throughout our culture because our culture is deeply patriarchal. That’s why this image is so common.

That cultural backdrop is the point here. That’s why this joke can so easily be misongynistic without triggering people’s disgust, because it’s not so different from the baseline level of misogyny that we experience every day. If you had to explain this to someone without that background, you would sound like a monster if you were trying to sell it as funny.

As for the origins of the game, there’s debate as to where it comes from, mostly from fictional accounts or from stories of mock executions. But yes, the popular imagination comes from Deer Hunter, where you do in fact point it at your own head. There’s nothing to indicate the woman agreed to play, however, since her consent isn’t part of the equation once she’s dead. That was my actual point when I brought up the fact that there’s no rulebook for the game.

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Joke’s on me, they were only pretending to be stupid.

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These people can’t imagine a world without authoritarian rulers. That’s why they love work so much - they get to be bossed around by little dictators all day and never have to think for themselves. It’s much more comfortable for them.

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I’m not going to defend her as a person, I’m happy with people not liking her for all sorts of reasons, but calling her not attractive is bizarre. It’s the sort of thing that a teenage girl sees and gets insecurities about, because “if she doesn’t qualify as attractive then I must be hideous”.

Honestly my appreciation of beauty got much better when I realised I was unconsciously judging everyone by every little flaw they had because I had picked up this judgemental devil on my shoulder that was ready to laugh at me if I found the wrong sort of person attractive. I changed my attitude from “where are their flaws?” to “what is their unique beauty?” and suddenly the world was full of beautiful people that I had never noticed before.

And when I get to know someone, the more familiar I get with them and the more I care about them, the more their apparent “flaws” become unique quirks of their beauty that I like.

Personally I have spent very little time looking at or thinking about Taylor Swift, but if you are curious to understand why people might find her attractive, I just did a search for “taylor swift pretty” and I can tell you it wouldn’t be difficult to explain it. Let me know.

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I have absolutely no respect for this basic-ass fucking take. It’s fine for you not to find someone attractive but to say someone has a “rat face” because you personally don’t find them attractive is fucking reprehensible. There is absolutely no reason for you to waste people’s time & attention with the things you personally find unattractive, you entitled shitstain.

And if you find this offensive, maybe you shouldn’t go around calling people “rat faced” and then you’d have some ground to stand on.

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Oh no, this was great actually. See, you started with the idea that she’s “not attractive” and with just the slightest prodding you switched to “rat face; flat body; no curves”, showing exactly what sort of vicious cretin goes around attacking women’s appearance just because they don’t make his dick hard. It’s a you problem, not anybody else’s, and now when that hypothetical teenage girl comes past this thread and sees your comment, she can scroll down and understand just how fucked you actually are, and maybe she’ll realise your validation is not something she should seek.

My comment to you was really for that girl, so she could see it and understand that you have revealed the kind of person you are.

“If a person has ugly thoughts, it begins to show on the face. And when that person has ugly thoughts every day, every week, every year, the face gets uglier and uglier until you can hardly bear to look at it.

A person who has good thoughts cannot ever be ugly. You can have a wonky nose and a crooked mouth and a double chin and stick-out teeth, but if you have good thoughts it will shine out of your face like sunbeams and you will always look lovely.”

― Roald Dahl, The Twits

You are the person with ugly thoughts. You are doomed to be ugly, not because of your “rat face” or whatever else, but because you are the sort of person who calls someone "rat face"d. Another way to say this is, “beauty is in the eye of the beholder”. Again, this is not a comment for you, I’ve given up on you, this is for whoever needs to actually read it. You can get fucked.

Also, just notice how this person has to project an imaginary motivation into my mind in order to ignore what I’m saying, calling me a Swifty even though I already said I don’t spend much time thinking about or looking at Taylor Swift. They lied to my face about one of the few things they actually know about me. That’s how wrong they are, they can’t even handle the few sentences I’ve written without losing grip on reality.

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Notice how this guy has to keep telling me what’s wrong with me so he can’t see how I’ve called out his shitty behaviour. He has no answer for what I’ve said about him; he just has to make it about me, even though I’ve explained multiple times now that I actually don’t give a shit about Taylor Swift and I’m happy for people not to like her.

His comments aren’t for us; they’re to keep his fragile ego from crumbling under the weight of actually examining his own behaviour, which is also how he became such a shitty person.

He probably also can’t stop replying for exactly that same reason, so I’m going to release him from that by stopping myself. He’ll reply, but it’s just to get the last word. I would be shocked if it was interesting in any way.

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I imagine if we showed his comments to Jennifer Lopez she’d think he was a creep, so there’s that too. That’s the part that makes me think he’s not just trolling, he actually believes what he’s saying, but I am absolutely done replying to this guy. He’s shown the sort of person he is, and that’s enough for me.

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