Pantherina

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Pantherina,

What do you mean?

To my knowledge they dont ship GNOME 46 but some old “LTS” variant (GNOME doesnt do LTS variants)

Pantherina,
  1. Good that only you do this, as a whole company setup is complex
  2. Pop_OS is currently not that well maintained afaik, their GNOME desktop is quite outdated.

Just using their OS for the hybrid graphics support is a valid point, but should not be the only one.

Having a well managed OS is crucial, but I disagree that Ubuntu base is the best here.

For stability, a centrally managed Fedora Atomic would be better I think. Way more stable, image-based, all peolple would have exactly what they need.

You could build images locally and take care of the exact updates like that. Or you just share specific configs for each role, like preinstalling different software.

But having things like specific policies, any files, hardening etc. is totally possible during image creation.

Pantherina,

I think 3a is already too old. I think 4a is a better minimum, but this is still insecure of course.

Pantherina,

Yes I know, and I want to try DivestOS one time. But they do incomplete patches.

They cannot update the kernel themselves or even worse the firmware. The kernel needs to be built and patched for the specific hardware, GrapheneOS relies completely on Google here. And the firmware needs to be signed by the vendors, so no chance either.

And especially baseband, cellular stuff has extremely many vulnerabilities in the code.

Pantherina,

Not sure if VPN eliminates all risks with 2G and 3G, maybe it does.

Sandboxing, javascript

Vanadium has sandboxing but its javascript blocking is useless (no granular control)

Mull has no process isolation at all, but support for UBO and Noscript. Bad situation

it’s a walk in the park for it to modify any of the partitions

These cannot be written without TPM verification or stuff, ask GrapheneOS devs about that, I dont know. The firmware signing is required, the verification will not be done inside the OS, that would be totally flawed.

If they have the firmware signing keys, they can fuck you. If they dont, they can only write to the system partition, and Attestation can see that.

Reading data has nothing to do with that. They likely can, but that doesnt matter.

My 6 years old phone still receives LOS updates

This will not include firmware and likely even the kernel.

Pantherina,

Yes that is one definition.

But what if you get it back? Or if you just keep it?

There is a chance that you have Pegasus on there, and I wouldnt want a phone without the detection of this.

GrapheneOS can likely detect pegasus with their Attestation and if you have it, use an external device to reflash it.

Pantherina,

Not sure but GrapheneOS has an “LTE only” mode, stock Android only has preferred Network afaik.

visiting only known websites is not a scaleable option, a browser needs to be secure. Kiwix is the browser that basically runs desktop Chromium on Android, so it has Addon support. But that is also soon manifest v3 restricted, and likely pretty insecure.

of course the user data partition is not checked, but every other important one. I have not tested what would happen when it is modified though.

I dont know what magisk did, but I think that is only about Google Play adding their “safety” scanning to the OS. Nothing regarding boot. But yes, likely there could, can or should be OS components scanning things too.

Googles stuff is pretty insecure, for example the latest SafetyNetFix simply disabled hardware cryptography, as they still support insecure phones.

For sure this is very complex and there are always vulnerabilities found in Android and GrapheneOS.

Pantherina,
Pantherina, (edited )

You got me in the first part XD

No joking, apart from that

But since apparently PulseAudio is the GNome / Microsoft approved way

I think I understand your point.

Pulseaudio is outdated, Pipewire AND Pulseaudio are now needed. Maybe also just Pipewire, and you can somehow fake Pulseaudio?

I never used a system without Pulseaudio, and Fedora has both (?) Or just Pipewire.

Pulseaudio is the old stuff that apps want to use, pipewire is the new cool stuff (I recommend qpwgraph) which allows like everything.

Aaand it is not overcomplicated, it isolated apps and introduces a permission system. Privileged programs that channel the requests and permissions, and sometimes need user interaction. Its actually less chaotic, the problem simply is that Flatpak ALSO tries to run all apps everywhere. And apps are mostly not up to date, so Flatpaks have randomly poked holes everywhere.

Today I worked on hardening configs for my apps. I maintain a list of recommended ones here. I will just put my overrides in my (currently still private) dotfiles, will upload them some day.

I am for example now Wayland only. Not all apps want to, but with the correct env vars (which I just globally set for all flatpaks, hoping it will not mess with anything), all apps use it.

This makes the system way faster, and applying different vars on the apps is very easy with Flatpak.

Literally no downsides!

Not true. It still has no updating mechanism, the binary may be official, but the rest are random libraries that may not be well versioned or controlled, etc etc.

The post is specifically about upstream supported Appimages, while Flathub is mainly maintained by the same 4 peolple (it is crazy). The request is for upstream devs to maintain Flatpaks.

But for sure not everything is nice. Runtimes are too huge, outdated apps cause huge library garbage, downloads are inefficient, …

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Pantherina,

Mailbox.org missing, pass

Pantherina,

What, source?

How would you block an OS?

And btw there are some reasons why GrapheneOS may be criticised

Pantherina, (edited )

Thanks! TLDR spamhaus (a big spamlist provider) has them on their spamlist, or maybe not, and they are using some fancy CDN.

It is VERY likely just a technical error.

Pantherina,

Interesting. What are the App IDs of those both apps?

If they base on Chromite that is probably fine.

Pantherina,

I am pretty happy with GrapheneOS. Things like separate toggles for internet, or long powerbutton press foe torch are missing.

But you cannot imagine how much effort it is to maintain such a project, and their base is stable, the updates are damn fast.

First stability and security, then features.

Their core OS is minimal on purpose. I use the phone, vanadium (hardened chromium, with JIT toggle, now with adblock, completely degoogled), their attestation app, etc.

Most of the other stuff are random FOSS projects, I dont even use sandboxed play, but if I wanted to I could create a separate user profile and install it just in there.

DivestOS is doing sandboxed microG which is way more secure than unsandboxed, but still tons of effort and will break a lot.

Pantherina,

Btw get Mull from the DivestOS repo, the F-Droid version has veeery slow updates and less.

Pantherina,

Yeah, so no Pixel 8a? What the hell will I buy when the last half-tolerable Pixel (6a) gets no updates anymore?

Pantherina,

Do gorillas kill babies of other animals, monkeys or humans?

I just dont really believe that Harambe would have done anything to that baby.

Pantherina,

VPNs are not meant for privacy. The concept is clunky, as is the concept of our internet.

Tor or I2P are made for privacy, but the interactions with the clearnet have the same problems, you need a legal entity hosting the server, IPs are known and can be blocked etc.

Hosting your own VPN does not anonymize you anymore but is very unlikely to get blocked.

Pantherina,

I dont get why people would care for influencers

Pantherina,

I mean I already reported 2 issues, but it still works. I can use it without big problems, I use the beta Flatpak (as explained in my flatpak remotes list).

Using Wayland too, Idk about any problems but if it wouldnt work I would just disable Wayland for the Flatpak and the app automatically runs through XWayland

Pantherina,

Dont use “stable” software people.

Gimp 3 is already very nice! Use it exclusively.

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