PugJesus

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PugJesus,

“This is the election where democracy is on the line. Otherwise we get fascism. Now is not the time to look outside the system…”

Yes, it turns out that if you don’t work on things between each election, you get the same issue that you had to deal with last election. But sure - vote in fascism this time! That way you won’t have to worry about having this little conundrum next election. :)

All the while the DNC will move to whatever the Reps stood for the cycle before.

Are you fucking serious.

Please compare the 2012 and 2024 Dem platforms, and get back to me.

Remember all the fuzz about Trumps Wall? Well Biden is building it.

lol

10$ says this is the “The money and legislation had already been pushed through but Biden didn’t use the power he didn’t have to unilaterally stop it” incident.

You think all the stuff about Trans people or the whole nonsense about furries or whatever will be exclusive to the Reps? The Dems will blow into the same horn in a few years, because enough of their white middle class voter base will have been eroded by their economic policies and need a scapegoat.

Do you…

do you not remember what the Dem Party was like on trans rights before the modern day

Fuck’s sake.

We see the same shit with “center” and “center left” all over the world becoming more and more fascist. And the Dems already started far right with some gay rights sprinkled in between. But please lets have the same argument in four years, with the goalposts being moved about what we should just accept as the “lesser” evil.

Cool. Your proposed solution, for this situation, right now, without resorting to “Everyone will magically convert to my ideology in the next six months”?

PugJesus,

Science is a liberal lie, True Leftists™ only trust their GUT.

PugJesus, (edited )

Oh, I’m sorry, here I didn’t realize “Don’t let fascism immediately win in this election because numerous possibilities and LIVES are extinguished by fascism” was the denial of all work towards other possibilities.

PugJesus,

Liberals have no recipe against fascism. At best, they just postpone it by one or two election cycles.

Perhaps you can clear this up by directing me towards the political ideology that has the recipe against fascism?

PugJesus,

And you’re such a hero, demanding that their genociders be given as much aid and support as humanly possible.

PugJesus,

These are both reactions to imperialism.

It’s funny how they resemble exactly how other authoritarian regimes acted even without the prodding of imperialism. Hmm. Hmm…

PugJesus,

Hell, you should post that pic on the main page! It’s definitely a gem!

PugJesus,

Fits the rest of their LARPing, honestly.

PugJesus,

Biden could pretty much guarantee a win tomorrow by announcing that it has been determined that Israel is indeed committing war crimes, followed by cutting support for them as per the Law when the recipient of help is committing such crimes, ideally followed by sanctions.

My favorite part is where no amount of evidence that the US electorate doesn’t actually back this idea up doesn’t stop Very Serious Leftists™ from parroting it over and over and over again.

PugJesus,

lmao

Coming from someone who has openly yearned for a Trump presidency?

PugJesus,

“he’s opposed to genocide! He’s a fascist!”

Wow, I didn’t know supporting genocide against numerous minority groups in the US was actually ANTI-genocide! Thank you for enlightening me. It’s a really brave new form of leftism you’re championing!

PugJesus,

Hey now!

It might be Israeli propaganda they’ve been fed. Bibi needs a Trump administration to keep him in power so he can genocide the West Bank too.

PugJesus,

Cute, I love that you get hard over the prospect of minorities being murdered for being liberal and concerned about resolving issues instead of, what, taking to the streets, armed and dangerous like you are?

Oh, wait, what am I saying, you’re doing even less than the liberals you so despise.

PugJesus, (edited )

“Just DO it! See? The fact that Dems HAVEN’T is PROOF that they DON’T CARE”

Like, someone wants to say that Dems are a bunch of milquetoast moderates who aren’t playing hardball against fascists they SHOULD be playing hardball against? They aren’t fucking wrong.

But the idea that the two are equivalent or just as bad as each other is either insanity or regurgitation of fascist propaganda.

We should not be satisfied with Dems. That’s not the same as ‘let the Republicans win’.

(all in agreement with you, mind, I understood your sarcasm)

PugJesus,

“We should end genocide somewhat”

Literally the Biden position. Which is a mild milquetoast lukewarm moderate take on an issue that should be far more serious.

But I guess Trump’s “We should intensify and start new genocides” is more appealing.

PugJesus,

I’m telling you the goal was never scored.

That’s right, and it never will be, because you’ll always have another excuse ready.

PugJesus,

God. If only.

PugJesus,

Yeah, I remember when he said “Those Palestinian protesters don’t have any valid concerns, they’re just a bunch of antisemites.”

PugJesus,

Sorry that the miserable task of democracy doesn’t appeal to you. Maybe you can find somewhere where you can just parrot the Party Line and be happy with the Great Leader? I hear the PRC is nice.

PugJesus,

I’m still struggling to figure out why so-called “leftists” on Lemmy want full authoritarian fascism.

Because they crave fascism, but they’re too cowardly to admit it out loud.

PugJesus,

Standing by and doing nothing when you could do something is assisting the end result. So if Trump wins, you can pop some champagne and celebrate how many additional Palestinians you’ve helped murder so you could indulge in a masturbatory excuse for civic participation.

PugJesus,

Its not bidens fault some of you are unable to read.

Biden has become the Obama of the terminally online. Anything bad happens? THANKS BIDEN

PugJesus,

What’s even funnier is how they think no one notices.

It’s hard to notice when the only people they listen to are their fellow deluded terminally online ‘comrades’ who think ‘leftism’ means ‘let fascists win until the magic pendulum gives the left a win’.

PugJesus, (edited )

He would have instantly been viewed favorably on this issue and likely wouldn’t have tanked his polling.

  1. His polling didn’t tank in tandem with the Gaza genocide.
  2. Most Americans are either in support or ambivalent towards Israel in this conflict.
  3. Every poll I’ve seen asks the most important issue to voters, and it’s always the economy, with the Israel-Palestine conflict coming in near the bottom.

Israel is committing a genocide, to be clear. The moral thing is to, at minimum, stop supporting their genocide. But that’s not the same as saying that the Palestinian genocide is what brought Biden’s poll numbers down, or that it’s a silver bullet (or even an unambiguous net gain) electorally speaking.

PugJesus,

It’s funny - Caesar (and many other populare politicians) faced state repression from proclamations which suspended the normal functioning of the law and government (Senatus consultum ultimum). Nowadays the goal is to avoid state repression from the normal functioning of the law.

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