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Kicked macOS to the Curb and Installed Asahi Fedora Gnome

Most of the switching posts are from frustrated windows users making the jump. I’m already a Linux user on my server (Ubuntu for now, going Debian at some point) and a 2014 iMac for tinkering/testing (KDE Neon), and a couple of raspberry pis (raspberry pi os headless) but our main household computer is an M1 Mac mini that my...

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Generally yes, but you still need hardware support (mostly kernel and mesa). They upstream - but generally you currently want packages built from their git for that.

Also the installer is very mac hardware specific.

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One thing I like about bluesky is that your identity doesn’t have to be tied to an instance domain - you’d still have issues if you want to change is later, but if you plan ahead and use your domain you can just move it between instances.

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A lot of the Zen based APUs don’t support ECC. The next thing is if it supports registered or unregistered modules - everything up to threadripper is unregistered (though I think some of the pro parts are registered), Epycs are registered.

That makes a huge difference in how much RAM you can add, and how much you pay for it.

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Was mich immer nervt ist dass anscheinend niemand der das nutzt sich ueber sowas Gedanken macht, und wenn man das anspricht wird man ausgelacht. Prominentes Beispiel waere Uber - ich hatte die damals nicht genutzt weil einfach klar ist dass die den Taxipreis nur schlagen koennen wenn sie Teile der Taxidienstleistungen nicht bieten, und/oder die Fahrer verhungern lassen. Beides haben sie gemacht - siehe z.B. surge pricing. Taxi hat Befoerderungspflicht und feste Preise.

Essenslieferdienste sind ein anderes Beispiel, da wurde massiv Restauranteigene Inrastruktur zerstoert, und sowohl fuer Kunden als auch Fahrer sind die Bedingungen schlechter. Absolut absehbar, und haette man verhindern koennen wenn man von Anfang an die entsprechenden Dienste vermieden haette. War ich aber auch wieder wohl praktisch der einzige - ich hab die letzten Monate dann doch mal ueber Foodora bestellt weil alles andere jetzt eben weg ist.

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Not just that - intel did dual core CPUs as a response to AMD doing just that, by gluing two cores together. Which is pretty funny when you look at intels 2017 campaign of discrediting ryzen by calling it a glued together CPU.

AMDs Opteron was wiping the floor with intel stuff for years - but not every vendor offered systems as they got paid off by intel. I remember helping a friend with building a kernel for one of the first available Opteron setups - that thing was impressive.

And then there’s the whole 64bit thing which intel eventually had to license from AMD.

Most of the big CPU innovations (at least in x86 space) of the last decade were by AMD - and the chiplet design of ryzen is just another one.

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That’s already the friendly variant. Traditional find has a mandatory path as first argument, so to find in the current directory you need to do find .

It also doesn’t know if it really is a path - it just prints that as a likely error. You might just have messed up quoting an argument.

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Short version: A bunch of shitty companies have as business model to sell open databases to companies to track security vulnerabilities - at pretty much zero effort to themselves. So they’ve been bugging the kernel folks to start issuing CVEs and do impact analysis so they have more to sell - and the kernel folks just went “it is the kernel, everything is critical”

tl;dr: this is pretty much an elaborate “go fuck yourself” towards shady ‘security’ companies.

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Is it a ‘death by quantity’ thing?

Pretty much that - those companies rely on open projects to sort it for them, so they’re pretty much scraping open databases, and selling good data they pull from there. That’s why they were complaining about the kernel stuff - the info required was there already, just you needed to put effort in, so they were asking for CVEs. Now they got their CVEs - but to profit from it they’d still need to put the same effort in as they’d had to without CVEs in place.

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Making an exception for one organisation, pressured by politicians, would be harmful. BBC has the following policy about neutral reporting:

We don’t use loaded words like “evil” or “cowardly”. We don’t talk about “terrorists”. And we’re not the only ones to follow this line. Some of the world’s most respected news organisations have exactly the same policy

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One fascinating example is one owner that replaced the DC barrel jack with a USB-C port, so they could utilize USB-PD for external power.

Oddly enough that’s also an example for bad design in that notebook: The barrel jack is soldered in. With a module that is plugged into the board that’d be significantly easier to replace - and also provide strain relief for power jack abuse. All my old thinkpads were trivial to move to USB-C PD because they use a separate power jack with attached cable.

The transparent bottom also isn’t very functional - it is pretty annoying to remove and put back, due to the large amount of screws required. For a notebook designed for tinkering I’d have wanted some kind of quick release for that. Also annoying is the lack of USB ports on the board - there’s enough space to integrate a USB hub, but just doing that on the board and providing extra ports would’ve been way more sensible.

The CPU module also is a bit of a mixed bag - it pretty much is designed for the first module they developed, and later modules don’t have full support for the existing ports. I was expecting that, though - many projects trying to offer that kind of modular upgrade path run into that sooner or later, and for that kind of small project with all its teething problems ‘sooner’ was to be expected. It still is very interesting for some prototyping needs - but that’s mostly companies or very dedicated hackers, not the average linux user.

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Ability for AM radios to interrupt other playback for announcements has been around at least since the 90s. Back then it was commonly used to pause cassette playback when traffic announcements were made.

This just requires for the device to monitor radio when on, and to be on - and with how integrated it is in modern days cars functionality I’d say the chance for them to be on is higher than it was in the 90s. So having that functionality is a pretty good way to reach a lot of car drivers.

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RDS and related protocols like TMC have specifications for both FM and AM transmitters. Those are used to stop playback if an urgent message comes. I’m assuming you have AM stations with such signals in the US (I don’t think we have in the EU) - otherwise the AM radio mandate would indeed be stupid.

edit: did some digging (it’s been almost 30 years since I cared about that stuff) - seems the US was pretty late to the party for radio data channels, and side channels for AM (which wasn’t of that much interest here due to the FM heavy radio landscape in Europe) only was discussed in the early 90s for the US specific variants. I couldn’t find any details if that actually ever got implemented. Given that most documentation available on that topic is heavily focusing on EU I’d guess it never got that much use in the US.

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Funny timing, I’m currently going through a stack of Sun hardware in my garage to decide what to keep, and for what I’ll try to find a good home (or eventually dispose of it).

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For AI and compute… They’re far behind. CUDA just wins. I hope a joint standard will be coming up soon, but until then Nvidia wins

I got a W6800 recently. I know a nvidia model of the same generation would be faster for AI - but that thing is fast enough to run stable diffusion variants with high resolution pictures locally without getting too annoyed.

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Admittedly I’m just toying around for entertainment purposes - but I didn’t really have any problems of getting anything I wanted to try out with rocm support. Bigger annoyance was different projects targetting specific distributions or specific software versions (mostly ancient python), but as I’m doing everything in containers anyway that also was manageable.

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Leberwurstersatz hab ich bisher noch nichts gefunden - weder fuer aufs Brot, noch die Grobe fuer Schlachtplatte. Fuer letzteres braeuchte man auch noch Blutwurstersatz. Rest der Liste stimmt aber.

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Roku always was a company with great engineers and shitty money grabbing management. The new user creation always requested data not necessary for basic operation.

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No, most companies also have mostly incompetent engineers.

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I find this situation rather entertaining. It shows yet again how important it is to educate people on the basics of how LLM work, including how they are being executed - I’m guessing with just a tiny bit more knowledge it’d also have been obvious nonsense to you.

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Gut dass das kommt, aber leider zu spaet. Ich denke mit konsequenter Anwendung der existierenden Gesetzgebung gegen Scheinselbstaendigkeit haette man da auch schon viel machen koennen - jetzt ist viel zerstoert das wohl auch nicht mehr zurueckkommt. Hier gibts glaub ich nur noch ein einziges Restaurant das an eigenen Fahrern (mit gestellten Fahrzeugen) festgehalten hat.

Bei den anderen wird das jetzt halt vermutlich weiterhin teurer werden - was auf die Kunden umgelegt wird. Umstellung von eigenen Fahrern zu Lieferdiensten hat bei praktisch allen Restaurants zur Einfuehrung von Liefergebuehren ueber die Plattform gefuehrt - und Bedingungen fuer die Fahrer sind trotzdem schlechter als vorher.

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Ist man in anderen EU-Staaten normalerweise auch, nur fuer insgesamt billiger. Vergleiche schauen leider haeufig nur einen Teil der Abgaben an (oft nur Steuern): Ich zahle hier in Finnland zwar mehr Steuern, aber dafuer ist da mehr drin das in Deutschland noch separat abgerechnet werden wuerde. Insgesamt komme ich hier besser weg als in Deutschland.

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Dazu kommt dann noch der zusaetzliche Schaden in der Wirtschaft, auch von Leuten die so aussehen als wuerden sie sich bemuehen: Bestenfalls koennen wir die Bewerbung direkt aussortieren, und verschwenden nur ein paar Minuten damit, schlimmstenfalls stellen wir dann jemand ein der versucht in der Probezeit wieder entlassen zu werden.

Langfristig gehen wir eh in Richtung weniger Beschaeftigung - statt hier Leute zu gaengeln die nicht wollen, und damit noch Kollateralschaden verursachen sollte man das einfach akzeptieren, und schauen dass wir Produktionsmittel die Arbeitsplaetze ersetzen so besteuern dass wir uns leisten koennen wenn jemand nicht arbeiten will.

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Briefkasten leeren, Leser fuettern, bei Fehlern schauen was los ist. Mal abgesehen davon dass man einen Leser fuer etwas unterhalten muss das seit zwei Jahrzehnten obsolet ist. Kann natuerlich gerne ueber eine Grundgebuehr gemacht werden - aber dann bitte als separates Amish-Konto das die Kosten fuer die Leser und aehnliches ohne Quersubvention deckt.

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It also is perfectly fine for running a few minute long compile cycles - without running into thermal throttling. I guess if you do some hour long stuff it might eventually become an issue - but generally the CPUs available in the Airs seem to be perfectly fine with passive cooling even for longer peak loads. Definitely usable as a developer machine, though, if you can live with the low memory (16GB for the M1, which I have).

I bought some Apple hardware for a customer project - which was pretty much first time seriously touching Apple stuff since the 90s, as i’m not much of a friend of them - and was pretty surprised about performance as well as lack of heat. That thing is now running Linux, and it made me replace my aging Thinkpad x230 with a Macbook Pro - where active cooling clearly is required, but you also get a lot of performance out of it.

The real big thing is that they managed to scale power usage nicely over the complete load range. For the Max/Ultra variants you get comparable performance (and power draw/heat) on high load to the top Ryzen mobile CPUs - but for low load you still get a responsive system at significantly less power draw than the Ryzens.

Intel is playing a completely different game - they did manage to catch up a bit, but generally are still running hot, and are power hogs. Currently it’s just a race between Apple and AMD - and AMD is gimped by nobody building proper notebooks with their CPUs. Prices Apple is charging for RAM and SSDs are insane, though - they do get additional performance out of their design (unlike pretty much all x86 notebooks, where soldered RAM will offer the same throughput as a socketed on), but having a M.2 slot for a lower speed extra SSD would be very welcome.

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Not entirely sure about that. I have a bunch of systems with the current 8cx, and that’s pretty much 10 years behind Apple performance wise, while being similar in heat and power consumed. It is perfectly fine for the average office and webbrowsing workload, though - a 10 year old mobile i7 still is an acceptable CPU for that nowadays, the more problematic areas of IO speed are better with the Snapdragon. (That’s also the reason why Apple is getting away with that 8GB thing - the performance impact caused by that still keeps a usable system for the average user. The lie is not that it doesn’t work - the lie is that it doesn’t have an impact).

From the articles I see about the Snapdragon Elite it seems to have something like double the multicore performance of the 8cx - which is a nice improvement, but still quite a bit away from catching up to the Apple chips. You could have a large percentage of office workers use them and be happy - but for demanding workloads you’d still need to go intel/AMD/Apple. I don’t think many companies will go for Windows/Arm when they can’t really switch everybody over. Plus, the deployment tools for ARM are not very stable yet - and big parts of what you’d need for doing deployments in an organization have just been available for ARM for a few months now (I’ve been waiting for that, but didn’t have a time to evaluate if they’re working).

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